Sorry for such a newb question, but i have been looking around for stuff to do to the s70 turbo (not glt)... My main goal is to get to the 400 whp mark, if not a little more!, and am wondering what mods it would take to get there and how much $ (estimated) for each part. I dont want to get a chip and have to change it everytime i get a mod etc... I know it is rather pricey to get hp and have money set aside for that i just want to know what i should be looking at.

Thanks,
and sorry for the newb question again

In the General section I made a post with links to sites.
Check it out and you will find alot of Mods and Parts avalible.
If you really want to spend $$$ Check out this site. http://www.volvomotorsports.com/volvo1/index.shtml

thanks for the response and the site...

1 last question though - are 850 engine parts and s70 engine parts interchangeable?

Ok well first off do you have a budget? Second off any upgrades you do, you will want to get a proper ECU tuning otherwise your going to run into a load of troubles.

1. Start with a Stage 0 setup, go over to Volvospeed and check it out, it is in the pinned section in the PERFORMANCE forum.

Are you running an HPT or LPT engine, just wondering? What year is your S70?

2. 3" downpipe to 3" free flowing CAT-back. I would have it custom made will cost less then any pre-made equipment. I would say it would run you around $500-$1000 to have it all made for you. And make sure you have it MANDREL bent for better flow.

3. You could get an EST intake, but your basically taking in hot air for a cool $189. Not worth it IMO. I would stick the the stock airbox. It is the best setup.

4. SAMCO turbo hoses for like $325 and or wait for the Stylin Motors INC. turbo hose kits to come out @ like $200. Also get their Vaccum lines as well $50.

5. Bigger injectors, RC has some for like $95 a pop I believe, or get Volvo upgrade ones for like $600 something all together.

6. Bigger turbo, 19T sounds about right. http://www.vptuning.com

7. FMIC setup, I bet would run around $500+ to have it custom made.

8. You need an ECU upgrade to maximize your cars performance from all the other performance parts. SpeedTuning USA sells one with a 12PSI/15PSI/17PSI program for $325, good chip. Upsolute sells a chip for $400, IPD sell one for like $900 something, and they are one of the best around, RICA (Sold by VPTuning.com) is like an $800 and is very good. I think a few people on Volvospeed or one person is using the CIVINCO setup, which I believe is a standalone system. Check it out over on VS. Also EST ( http://www.eurosporttuning.com ) sells and ECU upgrade for I believe $500 or something. Maybe more.

9. If your going to go faster you need to be able to stop faster. I suggest a BIG BRAKE KIT but you will need 17" or bigger rims to fit them. Also SS brake lines as well. A good vented disc and or crossdrilled rotors would be good to get and should come with the BBK. I am going to say $500 for this.

10. I would get a strut brace for good measure. OMP if you can find it. EST and IPD make nice ones. The Volvo dealer can get one too I believe. $150+

cool, that has good info in there!! So basically your saying that i should get a 3" dp, 3" exhaust, bigger injectors, hoses, fmic, 19t turbo, and a chip and that will bring me to the 400whp mark? When you buy a chip and buy another mod i heard that you have to send it back to get reprogramed, but does that cost more money and which chip is the best for doing something like that?

My goal is 400whp... How much hp can the 19t handle? or would i have to go with a gt series like 28 or 30? Thanks for that reply though! Its hard looking at those sights that just sell parts and trying to figure out what i should get for my goals...

oh and its a 98 s70 that comes with the 236 hp or whatever... i dont know if that is the hpt or the other one... and not really much of a budget, just would like to get descent prices on the parts i buy

Sounds like the HPT to me!!!

Oh I would also get a Boost gauge if you haven't already to see what your boosting now and what your vaccum is as well. Autometer makes great ones, can get them on Egauges for like $50 some bucks. Great gauges.

Also I would get an EGT gauge from Autometer and also a Wideband 02 meter to see what your a/f ratios are.

You can get an A-pillar pod from http://www.gaugepods.com
It is like $60 and worth it.

is there somewhere where it has people's cars and the mods they have and the hp they are putting out so i can look at what other people are doing? Because i have looked at other car's sites and they usually have places for that kind of stuff...

Is your car manual or automatic? If auto you might want to do a manual swap. It might be worth it.

yea, i am definately gonna get guages, im not gonna do stuff without being able to make sure nothing else goes wrong lol, thanks for the site that sells them though!

manual

Awsome!

Oh and you can buy an ECU that is for your car and send it out to an tuning company to have an upgrade done so you have ZERO downtime. So you will have a stock ECU and a upgraded ECU.

And when you need to have the upgraded one updated due to new parts, you swap them and sent the one out to be updated.

cool, how much does it generally cost to get updated after you already have bought the tuning? And which company is better after you start doing mods? because i see that most chips just show stock vs chipped but dont really show anything for when someone has upgraded other parts...

and you think that these parts will put me up towards my goal? doesnt seem like you really have to buy a lot then...

thanks a lot for the info by the way!!

oh, do you have anything done to your s70?

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cool, how much does it generally cost to get updated after you already have bought the tuning? And which company is better after you start doing mods? because i see that most chips just show stock vs chipped but dont really show anything for when someone has upgraded other parts...

and you think that these parts will put me up towards my goal? doesnt seem like you really have to buy a lot then...

thanks a lot for the info by the way!!

oh, do you have anything done to your s70?


I think with SpeedTuning it is a free update but you have to pay to ship your ECU to Oliver. I think RICA is like $100 and I don't know about IPD, EST or Upsolute. Also I assume the only have STOCK vs CHIPPED because everyones car will be different, they are only giving an estimate of what they have seen with the car they used to do the chip. That is what I assume, don't take my word for it.

Yes these parts with the proper tuning which does include a proper ECU tune and dyno testing. Your going to want to DYNO stock, and get HP and Torque figures as well as A/F figures. This will help the chip upgraders.

After you get your new parts I would suggest another dyno. Then send that info into the chiptuner. It helps them out greatly. Oh it might not seem like a lot, but it is. It costs the green to the extreme.

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Yes I do have stuff done to my car.

1999 Volvo s70 awd
78k miles
PA
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2252902

Exterior: EST mesh grille, EST eyebrows, 15% rear tint and 35% front, E-code turn signals and headlmap lens, Sylvania Silverstar turn sginal bulbs and LOW beams
Interior: Lotek triple gauge pod, Autometer Phantom Series boost/vac oil pressure and voltmeter gauges, Aluminum lock knobs
Suspension: EST strut brace
Engine: I5, 13G, SpeedTuning ECU set @ 12PSI, TurboXS Type H-RFL
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL885/3179800/8153337/135471379.jpg
COMING SOON! StylinMotors hose kit and their VAC line kit!!!

awsome, thanks for the info

i know its not really a lot of parts but they are expensive parts! lol... anyway this is good info that will definately help out. I definately will do dyno pulls stock, and after mods and DEF post it up on the forums!!

nice car btw, ur blow off sounds like a gun shot in the vid with high boost!

ORIGINAL: jermfrog

awsome, thanks for the info

i know its not really a lot of parts but they are expensive parts! lol... anyway this is good info that will definately help out. I definately will do dyno pulls stock, and after mods and DEF post it up on the forums!!

nice car btw, ur blow off sounds like a gun shot in the vid with high boost!


Yeah with low boost it is like a PSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHH

When in full boost it is like a Sniper shot. Like a high pitched chirp. I love it. New the run about $200 something.

haha im sure you scare a lot of people doing that next to em

oh and one last question, how much hp can stock internals hold? do u know? b/c if i needed to upgrade internals i wouldnt be able to do it for a while b/c that takes some downtime...

ORIGINAL: jermfrog

oh and one last question, how much hp can stock internals hold? do u know? b/c if i needed to upgrade internals i wouldnt be able to do it for a while b/c that takes some downtime...


I am not positive, but I think like 300-400, but you know for good measure I would upgrade the internals.

http://www.volvomotorsports.com
http://www.vptuning.com
http://www.ipdusa.com
http://www.eurosporttuning.com
SpeedTuning USA
Upsolute

do you know what internals need to be upgraded? like head gasket, pistons, rods? or what? lol sorry for all the questions im just trying to figure all this out

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do you know what internals need to be upgraded? like head gasket, pistons, rods? or what? lol sorry for all the questions im just trying to figure all this out


Nope go over to Volvospeed for that info. Or someone on here might know. TECH help him ok. Thanks.

well thanks for all the info s70driver and the help...

no problem, when are you starting all of this?

From what I hear the Stock internals can hold 400 HP.

ORIGINAL: tech

From what I hear the Stock internals can hold 400 HP.


That is what I thought as well, but to be sure upgrade them incase plus if you go higher you already have them upgraded. Internals that is.

well i planned on getting this nice s70 5 speed turbo but it just sold. I am going to try hard to find/get one this summer and am going to sell my bmw. I will have money left over and would like start makin it faster, so this summer i should get the car and most bolt on stuff, wont have time to do internals for a couple months, so i wont plan on getting high numbers yet lol... and i read that the 19t can only hold like 350whp so i am going to have to go to something bigger from what i read on volvospeed.

it isnt easy to find an s70 turbo (higher hp one) 5-speed here in florida... but i really want to find one, even if i could find a nice 850 5-speed i would get it! probably will have to buy one out of state and get it shipped here : (

Get an S70 T-5 auto and do a manual swap.

how much $ is it to do the swap? I have done some junk down there in my bmw since i recently did a cllutch... so how difficult do u think it is also?

oh also, what is the difference between a glt and a t-5... i know t-5 is faster, but is it b/c it has a bigger turbo or something or is it totally different? lol, now u have me looking at the auto's and there are a LOT in my area haha

Someone in the 850 section asked the same thing and there was posts to doing it.

Yes it is hard to find a 5-speed here in Fla.

Where are you in FLA?

well i am from tampa bay area, and thats where my parents live but am going to FSU in Tallahassee right now... so basiclally i live in tally and come home every once in a while and for summer etc...

oh is the 850 and the s70 gonna be the same for the manual conversion?

Almost exactly the same.

I would get the S70 T-5 Auto. And buy a manual tranny from the dealership or some other respectful place.

Oh I am in Orlando and we sell cars if we get one in I will let you know.

ORIGINAL: tech

Oh I am in Orlando and we sell cars if we get one in I will let you know.


awsome, that is like 2hrs from tally and tampa, so cant lose there : )
thanks man!

manual tranny from deal is prob a good chunk of money... but maybe not, i'll have to look that up

OK keep us posted.

i did a search and can see that the glt and the t-5 are just high and low pressur turbo's... does that mean that if you have either car, they will be the same after a chip since both will be at high boost? or are they accually "different" turbos? do they both have the same internals, fuel, etc...?

i saw somewhere that a stock s70 t-5 got a 14.7 in the 1/4 (manual of course), just wondering what it gets after dp, exhaust, and chip - estimating like 300 crank hp... is that getting into the high 13's?

ORIGINAL: jermfrog

i did a search and can see that the glt and the t-5 are just high and low pressur turbo's... does that mean that if you have either car, they will be the same after a chip since both will be at high boost? or are they accually "different" turbos? do they both have the same internals, fuel, etc...?


The GLT is a low pressure turbo, meaning it has a smaller turbo. Something like a 13g. The T-5 is a high pressure turbo, meaning it has a larger turbo like a 15g.

The GLT will come close to a stock T-5 with a chip. The T-5 will be upped more to like 17PSI or so. If you get a GLT please don't run more then 15PSI on your chip, be safe and run 12PSI. I love my 12PSI chip from SpeedTuning USA.

ORIGINAL: jermfrog

i saw somewhere that a stock s70 t-5 got a 14.7 in the 1/4 (manual of course), just wondering what it gets after dp, exhaust, and chip - estimating like 300 crank hp... is that getting into the high 13's?


I don't know what times it will get. But if a stock T-5 S70 can do that, with a dp, catback and chip I would say 14.0 possibly down in the high 13's like 13.9 maybe 13.8.

But you will want to perform STAGE 0 nonetheless on whatever car you get, to get it back to stock like performance. Then you can upgrade. For the STAGE 0 info go to Volvospeed and go to the PERFORMANCE section in the PINNED threads.

ok, so if you had a t-5 and put a 15g turbo on it, it would be the exact same engine? do they have same fuel, internals, and everything? I will do stage 0 on whatever car i get... i just want to know if the only difference between the two is the turbo, thanks

ORIGINAL: jermfrog

ok, so if you had a t-5 and put a 15g turbo on it, it would be the exact same engine? do they have same fuel, internals, and everything? I will do stage 0 on whatever car i get... i just want to know if the only difference between the two is the turbo, thanks


The T-5 has a 15g I am pretty sure since the T-5 is the HPT engine. If you put a 15g on an LPT engine and tuned it right with chip, dp, exhaust it would be like a T-5 maybe a little better. But if you got a T-5 you can get a bigger turbo then the 15g and slap it on there like a 16t, 18t, 19t. Would be bad ass.

I am pretty sure the compression ratios are a little different. Tech should come in here and help out as well.

do people use boost controllers after getting a chip so they can run stock boost and high (chipped) boost? Cause i saw on volvospeed forums that a lot of people had boost controllers in their sig.

Don't use a MBC, worthless, and not good for the car.

so everyone has it set at high boost all the time? what about running at the track, seems like you would want lower boost in 1st and maybe 2nd gear due to traction. My friend has an eclipse and if it is in high boost in 1st he just spins, so he flicks the switch after he changes to 2nd. I know your not suppost to use boost controller to up the boost, but what about lower it? cause 350-400whp would have trouble with traction in 1st and 2nd gear it seems