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Old 04-04-2014, 12:18 PM
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Hello all,
Recently acquired a great 245 for my son's first car. The reverse detent collar just broke, which is the little collar on the gear shifter that you have to pull up in order to put it in reverse. I am having trouble locating this part for replacement. My local dealer doesn't know and they sent me a parts diagram for the M46 and, for the life of me, I can not locate it on there. I will try to attach the part diagram they sent me.

If anyone can help with a source or part number that would be wonderful! The other option is $299 for the entire assembly (dealer price.)
 
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Old 04-04-2014, 12:28 PM
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I believe its the 'lockout sleeve' part 19, engaging against 35, 'detent plate'.

I show this part as NLA, so the best source will likely be a junkyard or parts recycler like Volupart.
 
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Old 04-04-2014, 12:32 PM
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Thanks for the reply. I thought that might be it, except it just doesn't look like it. But I'll see if I can track that part down, thanks for your help.
 
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Old 04-05-2014, 11:47 PM
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Are you sure that it is the collar itself that is broken? A common issue with these tranies is that the little straps (nylon,IIRC) will break and cause a disconnect with the reverse lockout dog, preventing the normal use of reverse. IPD sells a great kit wth instructions for way less than what you just mentioned. Not a difficult DIY.
Until that time, you can put in reverse like this: Slide the boot down the shifter shaft with your right hand until you see or feel a white nylon piece waay down there. Put your finger underneath it and lift up, while moving the lever into the reverse position.
Don't be afraid, there are no moving gears or anything down there to tear your finger off. You may have to tear the boot at the top a little to see the piece to lift; replace the boot at the same time you do the cables.
It's a fun father and son bonding project.
 
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Old 04-06-2014, 01:26 PM
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Thanks Sambar Stag. For some reason I assumed it was a more complex mechanism, not just a piece of plastic connected to another piece of plastic to lift it over a blocking plate.

So we just removed the blocking plate.

I couldn't see any reason why that was a bad idea...now it just shifts into R whenever we want, like most other cars.

If there is something I'm missing here that makes this a bad idea, let me know...I won't be surprised.
 
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Old 04-06-2014, 02:04 PM
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hmm, every stick I've ever driven has some sort of lockout on reverse. push the stick in is most typical. the only one I can think of that doesn't is the '3-on-a-tree' on my 1965 ford f100 pickup.
 
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Old 04-06-2014, 11:02 PM
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amccullough, that is one way to enable reverse, but I don't recommend it. Here's why: that shift lever will now go into reverse just as easily as 1st or 3rd. It would be easy to put the car in reverse at say, a stoplight. Engaging the clutch will then propel you backwards. A car sitting close behind you or anticipating your movement forward when the light changes and they see your brake lights go out could have contact. Now, probably no noticeable damage would occur to the Volvo with it's 5mph bumpers, but could have significant damage to the new Audi or BMW behind you. (at least significant in the eye of said owner)! And certainly will cause you to be detained at the scene to get things straightened out.
As if that's not bad enough, imagine what would happen if you were to downshift into 1st and hit reverse instead. I think it would have a lot of resistance, but if you did manage to get the gears meshing while the car is moving forward would take out the whole reverse gear and probably the rest of the gearbox.
This is not the kind of thing a new driver should be exposed to, IMO. I would get the IPD kit and fix it ASAP
 
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Old 04-07-2014, 12:19 AM
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I looked at IPD's parts and couldn't find this kit?
 
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