1990 240 Bad Speedometer
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1990 240 Bad Speedometer
I have a 240 wagon with a broken odometer, and a speedometer that will work under entirely random circumstances. The Speedometer, once working, will continue to work until the cars been shut off, the odometers never worked.
The odometer gears inside of the cluster looks fine, factory original stuff. I've had all contacts cleaned prior to re-assembly and a few bits in the teeth grooving cleaned up (the plastic circle the gear climbs around), fuses are in good shape too.
All other gauges and lights work fine so what could be causing this?
The trouble seems to be the speedometer not receiving power, or receiving inconsistent power despite all three wires going to it gripping their spots pretty good.
Somehow one of the speedometer pins wasnt making proper contact so O took care of that, it was one behind the face on the lower section.
If anyone has a fix or a known working speedometer they're willing to sell let me know.
The odometer gears inside of the cluster looks fine, factory original stuff. I've had all contacts cleaned prior to re-assembly and a few bits in the teeth grooving cleaned up (the plastic circle the gear climbs around), fuses are in good shape too.
All other gauges and lights work fine so what could be causing this?
The trouble seems to be the speedometer not receiving power, or receiving inconsistent power despite all three wires going to it gripping their spots pretty good.
Somehow one of the speedometer pins wasnt making proper contact so O took care of that, it was one behind the face on the lower section.
If anyone has a fix or a known working speedometer they're willing to sell let me know.
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The cables behind the speed sensor have a sag to them and a crack in the cover right behind the sensor. Previous owner did briefly fix the speedometer by tightening these up, I'm thinking thats where the issue is.
Hopefully I can run some tests this week using the cables by the spare wheel.
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If the solderings old should I try re-soldering or just buy a known working speedometer?
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I'm not sure you can just go out and buy a working speedo for a given version. My 92 740 has a flakey speedo, where the needle usually stops at 42mph and won't go any higher, I've recapped it already and that didn't help (several caps WERE swollen and crusty), so I probably need to pull it out again and resolder its whole board. the 91/92 740's have a unique speedo not interchangeable with later years and apparently they are notorious for doing this. but, 240's are different and I dunno what years are interchangeable
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I'm not sure you can just go out and buy a working speedo for a given version. My 92 740 has a flakey speedo, where the needle usually stops at 42mph and won't go any higher, I've recapped it already and that didn't help (several caps WERE swollen and crusty), so I probably need to pull it out again and resolder its whole board. the 91/92 740's have a unique speedo not interchangeable with later years and apparently they are notorious for doing this. but, 240's are different and I dunno what years are interchangeable
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Last edited by 92Sedan; 05-09-2015 at 10:09 PM.
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Chances are its the actual speedo. Swap for another one, but it has to be the right one. In your case ABS speedo so anything 1991?+ with ABS will work.
Again, get a multimeter, set it to ohms and learn how to trace a wire end to end. If you were motivated enough you can unplug wires at diff and check if anything comes out the other end where it plugs into the cluster! Get it?
Again, get a multimeter, set it to ohms and learn how to trace a wire end to end. If you were motivated enough you can unplug wires at diff and check if anything comes out the other end where it plugs into the cluster! Get it?
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Oui, my wording
I meant that the wires not making good contact are the ones to the rear axle , on the outside. No obvious frays but quite a sag to them.
I will plug my Mullimeter in when I find it in my mess of things.
I meant that the wires not making good contact are the ones to the rear axle , on the outside. No obvious frays but quite a sag to them.
I will plug my Mullimeter in when I find it in my mess of things.
Last edited by 92Sedan; 05-10-2015 at 11:40 AM.
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one multimeter test would be to jack up one rear wheel with the other rear wheel carefully blocked, pull the speedo, and hook the multimeter up to the speedometer sender wires (the green-white and black wires at the 3-wire right angle connector, with it unplugged from the speedo), set the multimeter for AC Volts, and have someone spin that jacked up wheel (with the transmission in neutral), you should see maybe 1V AC pulsing as the wheel turns. if you see voltage pulses there, then the sender and wiring is fine, and your problem is definitely in the speedometer.
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I'm not the first one to remove the cluster (as evidenced by a missing screw, small chip on the headlight panel, newer odometer gear, and missing metal bracket), someone else got there before me.
When I first removed the cluster I cant recall if the tach wire was plugged in, it shouldn't have been, this car never got a Tach until I installed one.
When I find my old Millimeter, or buy a new one, I will try to get some results in this week.
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Augh, I should've brought some tape out, its all back together for now but when weather improves I'll get out there ASAP.
EDIT: My car will have an extra yellow cord for the cruise control, I'm certain that plugs into the bigger double spade, NOTHING touches the little one near the bottom beside the speedometer.
EDIT: My car will have an extra yellow cord for the cruise control, I'm certain that plugs into the bigger double spade, NOTHING touches the little one near the bottom beside the speedometer.
Last edited by 92Sedan; 05-11-2015 at 02:58 AM.