Go Back   Volvo Forums - Volvo Enthusiasts Forum > Volvo Vehicles > Volvo 850
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?
Search

Welcome to Volvo Forums!
Welcome to Volvo Forums,

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to start new topics, reply to conversations, privately message other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, join Volvo Forums today!


Reply
 
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 07-27-2009, 09:33 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 100
Question 850 distributor cap and spark plug wire order

Can anyone confirm that this is the correct order for the cap and wires.

http://volvospeed.com/volvo_repairs_...parkplugs.html

It is different from what is in the Haynes.

Car is a 1996 850 turbo.

Thanks.

Last edited by rspi; 02-03-2012 at 02:32 PM. Reason: repair link
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-27-2009, 09:45 PM
gilber33's Avatar
Senior Member
1994 Volvo 850
My Garage
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 4,073
Default

Did you take off the plugs and forget where they go?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-27-2009, 10:19 PM
850tony's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: wisconsin
Posts: 787
Send a message via AIM to 850tony Send a message via MSN to 850tony
Default

haynes is wrong, that link is right.

haynes is off by one plug.
__________________
94' volvo 850 wagon non-turbo automatic - burgundy
94' volvo 850 wagon non-turbo manual - silver
00' volvo s40 sedan turbo automatic - sliver

if the brakes didnt squeal it wouldnt be a volvo...

Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-27-2009, 10:24 PM
blackbrick's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Phoenix,Arizona
Posts: 448
Default

I followed link when I did mine
__________________

04 S60 2.5T In Volvo Heaven
96 850 n/a donated to "make a wish"
04 XC 90 2.5T
04 V70 2.5T
04 V70 n/a
things that changed mankind are fire, wheel and Internet
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-27-2009, 10:29 PM
blackbrick's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Phoenix,Arizona
Posts: 448
Default

Distributor cap is numbered and longest cable is No 1, shortest is No 5
__________________

04 S60 2.5T In Volvo Heaven
96 850 n/a donated to "make a wish"
04 XC 90 2.5T
04 V70 2.5T
04 V70 n/a
things that changed mankind are fire, wheel and Internet
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-27-2009, 10:48 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 100
Default

I have never done the job and was researching it. And noticed the discrepancy between the Haynes and Bay13. Just curious what you all thought. I will follow Bay13. Hope that fixes my misfire issue. I have already put the volvo plugs in -- still get the misfire.

I just checked the bosch cap and sure enough they are numbered and it corresponds to the Bay13 pic.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-28-2009, 02:33 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 100
Default

I put the new cap on last night. Hopefully that will fix the misfire. One of the problems is that the misfire is not consistent so it will take time to figure if it is fixed. When I started the job i noticed there was not much room so I took off the turbo pipe, and moved the air filter box out of the way -- including the bottom half that snaps onto the frame.

When I finally got to removing the three screws I noticed something... the bottom screw on the cap was not screwed in at all. My theory is that the last owner tried to replace the cap and since there was not much room just left the bottom fastener undone.

It seems that that could be the cause of the misfire because it seems to me that that go alter the flow of electricity.

I guess only time will tell. If that does not fix problem next up is bougicord wires.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-28-2009, 02:42 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 107
Default

Hopefully it is. Good luck!
__________________


1991 Volvo 740 Wagon
Radiator Replaced
Belts Replaced
Pre-Heater Hose Replaced
Tailgate Lift Support Replaced
Power Antenna Replaced

Running with
Zerex G05 Coolant
5W-30 Dino Oil with Auto-RX

-----Previously Owned-----
1997 Volvo 850 GLT
Customized Battery Connection
Customized Horn
K&N Air Filter
Alpine 6 CD Changer
ScanGauge II

Service Light Cleared
SRS Light Cleared
Accelerator Sensor Cleaned
EVAP Purge Valve Replaced
Hood Latch Replaced
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-05-2009, 12:16 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Norwood, MA
Posts: 40
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 850tony View Post
haynes is wrong, that link is right.

haynes is off by one plug.
WHOOHOOO... thank you! I love the Internet and its marvelous Forums!!!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-03-2012, 08:28 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 3
Default I need some clarification please

So, I am helping a friend of mine who has a '95 850 Turbo sedan. His car has been spontaneously dying on him. He pulled the plugs and they are gas fouled. I suspect that the injectors are bad as I had a similar problem with an old BMW I had years ago.

While pulling the plugs he damaged one of the plug leads. He replaced the wires, but did not pay proper attention to wire order. Now the car won't start at all and I suspect that the wires are not in the right order on the distributor cap.

I have reviewed this thread (and some others I tracked down via Google) and there are several competing descriptions of the proper order. The Volvospeed link at the beginning of this thread is no good.

Two of the outputs on the distributor cap are taller than the others (left side of the distributor @ about 9 and 11 o'clock). What I am hoping is that one of you can give me the correct wire order referencing one of these points.

Thanks

Danny
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 02-03-2012, 02:19 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Blakeslee, Pa
Posts: 25
Default

This Link may help you out:
Volvo Performance Repairs And Modifications
__________________
1994 Volvo 850 GLT Sedan
2007 Toyota Rav4 (wife's car)
2008 Chevy 2500HD Diesel
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 02-03-2012, 02:30 PM
rspi's Avatar
Administrator
1995 Volvo 850
My Garage
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 15,973
Send a message via Yahoo to rspi
Default

Here is one link: Volvo Performance Repairs And Modifications

And another (likely the one you need): Volvo Performance Repairs And Modifications

VolvoSpeed had to redo some things on their site which broke a lot of links.

Other than that, random stalls are usually caused by a bad fuel pump relay. So do check fuel pressure.
__________________
'95 850 T-5R Wagon - Panther - Daily Driver 22 / 28 mpg
'98 S70 GLT - Lil' Red - Daughter 22/30 mpg
--------------------------------------------
Volvo Repair Videos - Used Parts For Sale - Interior Lights For Sale - ABS Light? Click Here - Men's Mentoring
--------------------------------------------
Volvo's of time past: '87 740 GLE, '79 262C Bertone, '78 264, '95 960, '97 960, '98 S90, '98 S70 GLT, '95 850 T-5R Yellow, '95 960, ,96 850 R...
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 02-03-2012, 02:36 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 3
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rspi View Post
Here is one link: Volvo Performance Repairs And Modifications

And another (likely the one you need): Volvo Performance Repairs And Modifications

VolvoSpeed had to redo some things on their site which broke a lot of links.

Other than that, random stalls are usually caused by a bad fuel pump relay. So do check fuel pressure.
Thanks. The problem is not really random stalls. He has had it quit on him twice recently when it was idling in the driveway and he was scraping the snow off the windows. Both times pulling the plugs showed them to be gas fouled. The first time cleaning the plugs cleared it up. The second time lead to the damaged plug wire end and where we are today.

Excess fuel pressure is a possibility, but I think the problem is more likely to be worn out injectors. I had almost the identical problem several years ago with an '86 BMW and new injectors cleared it right up.

Before I can check on the potential injector issue however we need to be able to start the car.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 02-03-2012, 02:38 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 3
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kwalshy View Post
PERFECT! that was exactly what I needed. Thank you!

I love owner forums. I belong to several for various cars and motorcycles I own/have owned. They never fail to be a treasure trove of information.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 02-03-2012, 02:49 PM
rspi's Avatar
Administrator
1995 Volvo 850
My Garage
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 15,973
Send a message via Yahoo to rspi
Default

The problem with these cars are rarely due to excessive pressure, it's usually lack of pressure when the relay shuts down the fuel pump intermittantly. If he is having other stalling issues due to lack of air he may have a MAF problem or idle control problem.

Have you guys pulled codes?
__________________
'95 850 T-5R Wagon - Panther - Daily Driver 22 / 28 mpg
'98 S70 GLT - Lil' Red - Daughter 22/30 mpg
--------------------------------------------
Volvo Repair Videos - Used Parts For Sale - Interior Lights For Sale - ABS Light? Click Here - Men's Mentoring
--------------------------------------------
Volvo's of time past: '87 740 GLE, '79 262C Bertone, '78 264, '95 960, '97 960, '98 S90, '98 S70 GLT, '95 850 T-5R Yellow, '95 960, ,96 850 R...
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 02-03-2012, 06:34 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location:
Posts: 290
Default

If you get beyond a fuel pressure regulator problem, or coolant temp sensor (I had a problem with this - sensor was failing ONLY at approximately 90-120F causing me to flood while warming up), or other management issue (MAF and O2 sensor, etc) and decide to do something with the injectors - I highly recommend Mr Injector. Quick service and before and after reports on flow rate and spray pattern.

Not to mention, it is far far cheaper than new injectors.
__________________
1996 Volvo 850 Turbo Wagon
1987 BMW 325is
1987 AMC/Jeep Comanche
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 02-06-2012, 03:55 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Blakeslee, Pa
Posts: 25
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bankerdanny View Post
PERFECT! that was exactly what I needed. Thank you!

I love owner forums. I belong to several for various cars and motorcycles I own/have owned. They never fail to be a treasure trove of information.

bankerdanny,

I'm happy to read that the link was helpful. I too have been helped out by many others on auto forums and I'm glad I could 'pay it forward'.
__________________
1994 Volvo 850 GLT Sedan
2007 Toyota Rav4 (wife's car)
2008 Chevy 2500HD Diesel
Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2012, 03:55 PM
 
 
 
Reply

Tags
1997, 850, bougicord, cap, date, distributor, order, plug, put, replace, review, spark, sparkplugs, turbo, volvo, wire, wires, wiring


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Advertising
Featured Sponsors
Vendor Directory
Our Sponsors

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:02 AM.
© Internet Brands, Inc.


This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. Ford® is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company.
Secure Backup