Towing trailer with lowered suspension
#1
Towing trailer with lowered suspension
Hi guys
Bought a 850 T5 about a week ago and i'm in the progress of doing a stage 0 tune up and fitting better brakes and suspension.
But i have a question that i'm hoping i can get answered
Has anyone got experience with towing a trailer with lowered springs?
The reason i bought the car in the first place is that i want to use it as an towing car then i go rallying and use it as a service vehicle.
But i also use it as a daily driver and i find the car a bit boaty in the way it handles compared to the hot hatchbacks i've previously owned.
That's why i really would like to get the car lowered a bit and mount now shocks and springs in the rear instead of the nivomat that the car uses now.
Bought a 850 T5 about a week ago and i'm in the progress of doing a stage 0 tune up and fitting better brakes and suspension.
But i have a question that i'm hoping i can get answered
Has anyone got experience with towing a trailer with lowered springs?
The reason i bought the car in the first place is that i want to use it as an towing car then i go rallying and use it as a service vehicle.
But i also use it as a daily driver and i find the car a bit boaty in the way it handles compared to the hot hatchbacks i've previously owned.
That's why i really would like to get the car lowered a bit and mount now shocks and springs in the rear instead of the nivomat that the car uses now.
#2
Good question, and one that I'm eager to see replies to. I am in a similar situation in that I would like to be able to to a small u haul trailer or ultralight camper/pop up camper with a lowered car. The car came lowered on IPD blue springs with Koni yellows.
That said, I suspect it wouldnt be an issue, if your springs are stiff enough and with the right shocks/struts. It may depend on the trailer you are planning to tow and its ride/deck height. I'm limited in my experience on towing trailer, so take my advice with a grain of salt. Lowering the vehicle may effectively reduce the tongue weight you can safely tow without inducing sway. You may have to compensate by adjusting the height of the ball and/or stiffer rear shocks.
That said, I suspect it wouldnt be an issue, if your springs are stiff enough and with the right shocks/struts. It may depend on the trailer you are planning to tow and its ride/deck height. I'm limited in my experience on towing trailer, so take my advice with a grain of salt. Lowering the vehicle may effectively reduce the tongue weight you can safely tow without inducing sway. You may have to compensate by adjusting the height of the ball and/or stiffer rear shocks.
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#4
Description says that they are at least so they do not work in my case
#5
Good question, and one that I'm eager to see replies to. I am in a similar situation in that I would like to be able to to a small u haul trailer or ultralight camper/pop up camper with a lowered car. The car came lowered on IPD blue springs with Koni yellows.
That said, I suspect it wouldnt be an issue, if your springs are stiff enough and with the right shocks/struts. It may depend on the trailer you are planning to tow and its ride/deck height. I'm limited in my experience on towing trailer, so take my advice with a grain of salt. Lowering the vehicle may effectively reduce the tongue weight you can safely tow without inducing sway. You may have to compensate by adjusting the height of the ball and/or stiffer rear shocks.
That said, I suspect it wouldnt be an issue, if your springs are stiff enough and with the right shocks/struts. It may depend on the trailer you are planning to tow and its ride/deck height. I'm limited in my experience on towing trailer, so take my advice with a grain of salt. Lowering the vehicle may effectively reduce the tongue weight you can safely tow without inducing sway. You may have to compensate by adjusting the height of the ball and/or stiffer rear shocks.
Here is a picture of a trailer very similar to the one i own
My main concern is if the rear springs can handle it. The suspension kit i have been looking at is the orange Koni STR.T.
http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/perfor...rs-rear-30mm-2
#6
I'd say grab a tape measure and hook it up. You want the tongue to be level while hooked up, and the rear to not sag/rub.
Bear in mind the wagon has a 3300lb max towing capacity. I don't have my owners manual in front of me, but I vaguely recall the max tongue weight is 300lb in stock form. On lowering springs, I couldn't tell you how much of a difference it will make.
Regarding the STR-T shocks, they will be stiffer than stock, however may not hold up to repeated use for towing and may wear out faster. I would suggest an adjustable shock like the Koni Yellows that you can dial in for stiffer dampening if you are towing, or perhaps even a full coilover setup (the most idea option, and unfortunately the most expensive).
Bear in mind the wagon has a 3300lb max towing capacity. I don't have my owners manual in front of me, but I vaguely recall the max tongue weight is 300lb in stock form. On lowering springs, I couldn't tell you how much of a difference it will make.
Regarding the STR-T shocks, they will be stiffer than stock, however may not hold up to repeated use for towing and may wear out faster. I would suggest an adjustable shock like the Koni Yellows that you can dial in for stiffer dampening if you are towing, or perhaps even a full coilover setup (the most idea option, and unfortunately the most expensive).
#7
I'd say grab a tape measure and hook it up. You want the tongue to be level while hooked up, and the rear to not sag/rub.
Bear in mind the wagon has a 3300lb max towing capacity. I don't have my owners manual in front of me, but I vaguely recall the max tongue weight is 300lb in stock form. On lowering springs, I couldn't tell you how much of a difference it will make.
Regarding the STR-T shocks, they will be stiffer than stock, however may not hold up to repeated use for towing and may wear out faster. I would suggest an adjustable shock like the Koni Yellows that you can dial in for stiffer dampening if you are towing, or perhaps even a full coilover setup (the most idea option, and unfortunately the most expensive).
Bear in mind the wagon has a 3300lb max towing capacity. I don't have my owners manual in front of me, but I vaguely recall the max tongue weight is 300lb in stock form. On lowering springs, I couldn't tell you how much of a difference it will make.
Regarding the STR-T shocks, they will be stiffer than stock, however may not hold up to repeated use for towing and may wear out faster. I would suggest an adjustable shock like the Koni Yellows that you can dial in for stiffer dampening if you are towing, or perhaps even a full coilover setup (the most idea option, and unfortunately the most expensive).
Koni Yellows look like the right choice. Demon Tweeks also had a nice discount on Bilstein shocks now so might have to consider them too
#8
I'd say go with the Koni Yellow. It seems to be the consensus that the Bilstein HD's are too stiff/rough for daily driving, YMMV of course. Personally I have the Koni's and while the handling on the car is fantastic, they are quite stiff/rough in every day driving, and the rattles/shakes over bumps are quite loud at times. I'm currently in the midst of sound deadening the car to compensate for that, and having done the floor pans it has made a big difference. However my quarter panels still rattle and vibrate something fierce.
#10
I know what the towing capacities is for the car or at least what it is rated for here in Denmark.
1600 kg with brakes on the trailer
It's listed as 1800 kg in other EU countries.
More than enough towing capacity for what is going to use it for.
Planing on getting a set of Koni yellows here within the next couple of month
Will update the thread when the suspension is mounted and i've tried towing my rally car.
1600 kg with brakes on the trailer
It's listed as 1800 kg in other EU countries.
More than enough towing capacity for what is going to use it for.
Planing on getting a set of Koni yellows here within the next couple of month
Will update the thread when the suspension is mounted and i've tried towing my rally car.
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