Is My 2002 S40 DEAD?
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Is My 2002 S40 DEAD?
Was driving the car and the wife heard a chattering noise, the car started slowing down and smoke started coming out from under the hood. I stopped immediately, I put a quart of oil in it while it was running and the engine temp went back to normal and then it died. I tried to start it and the started just made a spinning sound. I tried it the next day, starter still spinning. I don't think that the starter gear is engaging the fly wheel Also the timing belt is still on the engine and the oil reads full. Is the engine burned up? I also put a total of 3 quarts in it, so that might be why it reads full.
Last edited by Robert Carter; 10-27-2014 at 12:42 PM.
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the VVT pulley was taken care of. I put some Slick 50 in the car 2 days before it blew up. The car was smoking a little bit , that's why I put the Slick 50 in. Could that have something to do with it? The car was running good and the day it blew up it was running a little rough. The lifters was chattering pretty bad when I opened the hood.
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I*don't think the engine is spinning, it sounds like the starter by itself.
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Your descriptions are confused and confusing but if I had to make a bet it would be this.
Car slowing down = valve timing slipping.
Chattering noise = valves saying hello to pistons.
Starter spins and timing belt still on engine = no compression OR timing belt teeth stripped at crank pulley.
The cardinal rule of ancient used cars is REPLACE THE ENTIRE TIMING BELT SYSTEM IMMEDIATELY unless you can confirm with irrefutable documentation that the work has been recently performed.
Running engine oil 3 quarts low isn't the most brilliant idea either.
Anyway, take the upper timing belt cover off, put a 30mm socket on the crank pulley bolt and see if the crank will rotate (clockwise). If it will, check if the cam pulleys are moving with the crankshaft.
Last edited by migbro; 10-28-2014 at 02:22 PM.
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If that were true, the starter would have malfunctioned at EXACTLY THE SAME TIME as your engine died for another reason. Not very likely unless the engine is seized and the ring gear now has broken teeth.
Your descriptions are confused and confusing but if I had to make a bet it would be this.
Car slowing down = valve timing slipping.
Chattering noise = valves saying hello to pistons.
Starter spins and timing belt still on engine = no compression OR timing belt teeth stripped at crank pulley.
The cardinal rule of ancient used cars is REPLACE THE ENTIRE TIMING BELT SYSTEM IMMEDIATELY unless you can confirm with irrefutable documentation that the work has been recently performed.
Running engine oil 3 quarts low isn't the most brilliant idea either.
Anyway, take the upper timing belt cover off, put a 30mm socket on the crank pulley bolt and see if the crank will rotate (clockwise). If it will, check if the cam pulleys are moving with the crankshaft.
Your descriptions are confused and confusing but if I had to make a bet it would be this.
Car slowing down = valve timing slipping.
Chattering noise = valves saying hello to pistons.
Starter spins and timing belt still on engine = no compression OR timing belt teeth stripped at crank pulley.
The cardinal rule of ancient used cars is REPLACE THE ENTIRE TIMING BELT SYSTEM IMMEDIATELY unless you can confirm with irrefutable documentation that the work has been recently performed.
Running engine oil 3 quarts low isn't the most brilliant idea either.
Anyway, take the upper timing belt cover off, put a 30mm socket on the crank pulley bolt and see if the crank will rotate (clockwise). If it will, check if the cam pulleys are moving with the crankshaft.
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The oil level was checked 3 days before and read full. The starter sound was immediate when trying to start it after it stopped running. I expected to see a hole in the side of the motor and a pool of oil on the ground, but I saw neither. I am going to do as you said and see what happens.
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You might be able to pull the fuel line off of the fuel filter and drain the tank from there. Might be slow though... But maybe turn the key on and let the pump start up? I'd try it myself, $50 is $50!
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Another Question:
Is there anything of
value I could sell off of this s40 before I send it to the graveyard in the sky?
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My timing belt was on and the gears turned. However, the timing marks were not lined up because the timing belt slipped. This bent 8 exhaust valves. When cranked the engine spun really fast because there was no compression. Check the timing marks or check the compression.
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Depends on your situation. I did the work myself for about $650 in parts. I have the tools and the space. And the car was given to a 16 year old as her first car. If someone else were to do the work it's tremendously expensive. In that case, I would have junked it with my local pull-a-part and bought a newer car for my daughter.
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