Head concerns
 

Hi everyone, newbee to the world of Volvos and need some help!
I have just purchaced a 1999 V70 non turbo 2.4, last week the timing belt let loose and looks like it took some valves with it, here is my question for everyone, will a head from a 2000 2.4 turbo work on my 99?

I have checked part numbers on some sites like autozone and the cylinder head for both years are the same number, turbo or not! The gaskets are not the same which has me scratching my head..
Has anyone ever swapped theses or know that it can or can not be done?

thanks in advanced

Heads
 

All I can tell you is, I have a 98, a 99 and a 2000, nd there are a lot of differences in the 2000 model. Go to volvo and check part numbers, tomorrow I'll look up the head numbers on my Vida ans get back to you hope this will help..
Pete

Head Swap
 

My Vida program calls for part number "8111178" with or without turbo, can you give me the motor description number example B5254T or B5254FS, you can find it in your vin decoder or usually it is on a sticker on the timing belt cover on the fender side, just want to be sure for you if ya still need the info.
Pete

Head Swap
 

y the way if this works or you get a new head, make sure you have a torque degree dial indicator..... the last torque sequence is not in pounds, it is in degrees, need a special tool you can get one on ebay...the final torque number is 130 DEGREES. not pounds

I have 1 I can loan out but they only cost $10 @ Auto Zone. Matter of fact, I'm putting together a special tool kit to loan out. It will have all of the tools needed to do the head job.

Tool kit
 

Wow, that's a nice idea, luckily I have just about every tool out there myself, from auto, woodworking, concrete and tile. My problem is...every time I loan out a tool, it doesn't seem to come back in the same shape as it went out. So I'm real cautious about that. I love helping people, it seems as if it is a calling for me, but there are many out there that don't seem to car enough to take good care of someone elses things ya know. my real concern in this head swap is that I'm giving the correct info on the heads themselves.

Heads
 

When I did my daughters 1995 850head non-turbo, and then my 1998 v70 turbo head gasket the gaskets were the same, in my gasket kit there was a choice for the intake manifold gasket, the head,exhaust and valve stem seals thermostat housing etc, were the same on both motors, be careful of the heater pipe in the back of the head on passenger side, hard to get at, make sure you get new gsket for that as well. if you do it and need help with it you can send me a PM, @ pete.colt1911a@gmail.com I'd be glad to walk you through. Remember you really don't need all the special tools they ask you to use, you can innovate on all but the degree reader.:)
p.s. I used a mirror for all the exhaust manifold bolts! never had to remove the manifold itself. it's a pain in the butt. Good Luck

Thanks guys! Sorry for not replying sooner, as luck would have it I was in Fla helping my Father and found a head, that is the 2000 turbo I asked about, my car (1999 non turbo) was back home in Michigan! The junk yard was a "you pull it" place. So I pulled the head and got a hell of a deal, ($68.00) the 2000 just had a rebuilt motor (found the paper work still in the car) had the rebuilder heat tags on the head and block!
The heads are identical, you have to plug the turbo oil feed line but the 99 has the plug, going to be installing it in the next few days so I'll post an update.
Again thanks! Colt I will be sure to contact you if I run into a snag! Thank you guy's

Good Luck with the head take your time and don't forget the the HEAD BOLT TORQUE DEGREE FINDER....it's a must. I'll be here

Alrighty got the head on and everything else is back together, I'm setting up the timing belt and from the specs I have found the intake cam gear mark is roughly at 10 oclock and exhuast mark is roughly 2 oclock (give or take 30 mins lol)
This is a 1999 2.4 non turbo ~ non VVT
All the pics I have found show lining the hash marks up with what looks like the inside cover behind the gears, however I do not see these marks on my cover, am I looking at the wrong thing?
Thanks

Here is a pic of the marks on our S70. Look at the #10:

http://atthetipwebs.com/technologyin...ams_marked.jpg

OK so I have the timing belt on but something is wrong, first I put both cams at the 10 and 2 position (roughly) turn the engine by hand and at 2-1/2 turns of the crank (clock wise when facing the crank) it locks, I have tried putting the cams at 12:00 and 1-1/2 turns of the crank it locks.
Any chance this can shear the crank shaft keyway causing the gear to be mis-aligned? or could I be that far off on the cams? (remember I'm missing the piece that the cam marks should point at)
Is there another set of mark I can use on the cam gears?
Any help would be big help!

Well, are you trying to crank it with the plugs in? That can be hard.

Other than that, these are interfierence motors and you have heard a dozen times that if the timing is not aligned properly and you start the car, you can destroy valves/the head. The cams and crank have to be properly aligned, not close. When I put mine back together I could not crank it over like I had in time past. Maybe the cams were tighter or not lubed as well with the rebuilt head. I use to crank it with a cresent wrench. I had to go get the proper ratchet and extension to turn it.

You have to mark your timing before you remove the belt or start tearing things apart. That way you have a reference to put things back. There are a lot of people that do NOT crank the motor to TDC when doing the belt, however, they have their own made marks to set things back the way they were to get things right.

Maybe you can pull the rear cam covers off to see if the back of the cams are aligned. If you can't figure it out 100%, have the car towed somewhere and have them align it.

Marking everything before hand is nice, but when it comes apart while driving (as read in my very first post) there is not alot of marking parts that can be done, and no the spark plugs are not in.
It doesnt help that someone else has had this apart,

If there are marks on the rear of the cam for alignment, can anyone tell me what and how they go? I have no problem tearing it down but need to know whats what!

If you look in the 850 section, in the Hot Topics, there is a write up for the head gasket that has a link to Tracy's website with several pages of instructions. Not sure if yours is the same but he posted pics for the back of the cams.

I will take a look thanks, I just pulled the upper head / cam carrier and setting my exhaust slot at rear of cam it is very clear that someone has removed the gears and did not install them correctly.
Now I just need to figure out which side is up on the slots then I can reinstall the gears.

Ok, you have a small notch in each cam gear, and one on the crankshaft, pull your plugs, all of them get a socket to fitthe crankshaft, I believe you already have all that, get something long and soft, to put in number 1 plug hole, I use a plastic sink riser fron under most sinks that supplies water from shutoof valve to the faucet. they come in different lenghts and cant do piston/cyl damage....turn the crank slowly..and watch as all 3 marks come into play per photo and watch the plastic tube in #1 that will be pushed up as you come up to your timing marks. that's top dead center...to double check if you are on the intake or exhaust stroke...look at the rotor on the intake cam shaft on other side of motor facing that it should be near the 10/11 o'clock position.. if all looks like that you are on the money...go by the original small marks on the timing gears...they are factory anything else someone else put there. let me know how you make out..
PETE

Here is where I'm at, set the cams up by the factory slots, reinstalled the gears in the correct position, on tdc, cam marks all look correct and the belt is on. Getting ready to crank it over by hand 5 or 6 times ( just to be sure) and then I'll hit the key!
I'll post an update...

ok turn crank 2 complete revolutions and see if all your marks are in the same place before you hit the key did you get it to TDC???/

First, I feel like an idiot on this car, I have installed 100s of timing belts and never had issues like this!
Now everthing is in place I turn the motor over by hand at the crank clock wise and on the second revolution the timing belt is riding up the back side of exhaust pulley like its going to jump, (between the water pump and exhaust cam) I have checked this belt against the old one its identical, I have tighten the belt way tighter than it should be with the tensioner, I have had the belt on and off no less the 20 times and still can not get it straight! I have also followed the direction in the link that was sent to me the tracey link. Step by step very carefuly too! Help!