740 head removal question
Hey all I’m trying to obtain some info on how to properly remove the head from my GLE. It’s the DOHC and all the data I can come up with online is for the SOHC. My concern is that the head bolts appear to be under the cams and I didn’t want to remove them as I have no idea what will happen when/if I remove them or how important it is to get them back exactly as they were. If anyone has tackled this job I’d greatly appreciate a run down and/or some helpful tips.
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Never done a 16V myself but logically if the bolts are under the cams, the cams have to come off. You'll have to retime everything afterwards anyway. I'd set the timing marks where they have to be and take off the cams.
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Originally Posted by lev
(Post 473515)
Never done a 16V myself but logically if the bolts are under the cams, the cams have to come off. You'll have to retime everything afterwards anyway. I'd set the timing marks where they have to be and take off the cams.
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You should have the timing and torque specs, turn the engine to where the marks are where they are supposed to be, and take it all apart. The 16V is trickier but not too bad from what I've heard... It's impossible to take off the head without disturbing the timing even on a 8V--I've tried it, it doesn't work. Obviously the 16V being "interference" engine, gotta be careful or valves will crunch.
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Originally Posted by lev
(Post 473523)
You should have the timing and torque specs, turn the engine to where the marks are where they are supposed to be, and take it all apart. The 16V is trickier but not too bad from what I've heard... It's impossible to take off the head without disturbing the timing even on a 8V--I've tried it, it doesn't work. Obviously the 16V being "interference" engine, gotta be careful or valves will crunch.
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What is the reason for wanting to remove the head. Did you do a compression check or is the head leaking. Normal procedure is to bring cyl. #1 up to TDC and verify all timing marks on the cams and harmonic balance are aligned. Then take everything apart. If you have 0 compression in 1 or more cylinders then you most likely bent some valves. Do we assume the timing belt didn't break.
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Originally Posted by jagtoes
(Post 473529)
What is the reason for wanting to remove the head. Did you do a compression check or is the head leaking. Normal procedure is to bring cyl. #1 up to TDC and verify all timing marks on the cams and harmonic balance are aligned. Then take everything apart. If you have 0 compression in 1 or more cylinders then you most likely bent some valves. Do we assume the timing belt didn't break.
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You are on the right track, most likely you have a bad HG, a burnt valve a distinct second possibility, bent or stuck valve not likely. So just continue disassembly and once the head is off you will know more.
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Originally Posted by lev
(Post 473548)
You are on the right track, most likely you have a bad HG, a burnt valve a distinct second possibility, bent or stuck valve not likely. So just continue disassembly and once the head is off you will know more.
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Very true! I have had many, many Volvos, never a 16V. Back in the day I avoided them on purpose, now would love to get one but all these Red Blocks are getting rare in a decent condition. Same as the 960, much more complicated than B230...
The 16V is really not that bad except for the interference engine but if you keep on top of the belt and tensioner and associated there is nothing different beyond that. Once you get it going you should be all right, even if you need a valve--machine shops do wonders and are not expensive considering... |
Originally Posted by lev
(Post 473567)
Very true! I have had many, many Volvos, never a 16V. Back in the day I avoided them on purpose, now would love to get one but all these Red Blocks are getting rare in a decent condition. Same as the 960, much more complicated than B230...
The 16V is really not that bad except for the interference engine but if you keep on top of the belt and tensioner and associated there is nothing different beyond that. Once you get it going you should be all right, even if you need a valve--machine shops do wonders and are not expensive considering... decently and I won’t run into too many other crazy issues. I’ve been looking through to make sure I replace every little thing related to the timing and balancing I can while the head is off so I don’t have to worry about it for a few years. As for the head a local shop quoted me $170 for a pressure test and shaving of the surface. I’m hoping it’s not much more than double that if I need head work |
You don't need to shave the head unless it's warped. First take it off, go from there. You'll be able to tell what's wrong, may not even need a machine shop visit.
How many miles on this car? One great thing about Volvo is that they seem to usually need less than you fear! |
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