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JimKW 10-14-2013 02:47 PM

Thinking About Selling My Yellow T5R
 
It runs great and I'm not having any problems with it. It has 215K on it, so it needs the Timing Belt and I am going to do the Water Pump with this change also.

Problem is I'm just not up to working on it myself any longer and the local Independent shop wants about $1050 to do the work. I've done it myself before on another R I owned, but I just don't feel like doing the work again. I'm 64 years old and just don't like pulling myself up off the floor any longer.

I know I'll be sorry if I sell it. I think I need somebody to talk me out of it.

awfulwaffle 10-14-2013 03:09 PM

They want how much to do a timing belt and water pump? Unless the timing belt on the turbos is way more complicated than my N/A was, that's gotta come out to a pretty crazy hourly rate.

JimKW 10-14-2013 03:51 PM

They use only all OEM parts and I think their rate is $100 an hour. I don't think changing the TB is any different on NA vs Turbo.

Brian40kk 10-14-2013 07:28 PM

Is this to change the timing belt, tensioners, pulleys, serpentine, oil change, and water pump?

That price include P&L?

My local Volvo dealer quoted me around $850 for my yellow. That's at $105 hourly rate. Did not ask for break down of parts though.

Don't sell. Like you said you will regret it right away. And would you ever go buy one again in the future? I have always thought about it on random occasions but like you said would regret it as soon as I took the money.

If you are selling I am interested. But again don't sell. I wouldn't.

rspi 10-14-2013 08:45 PM

I'll come and do the job for you. My travel cost will be $785. That will include 2 nights in a hotel, gas, meals for me and my wife and you can get good parts from FCP, iPD or the dealer. It will come out to about the same but you'll have the pleasure of knowing that I did it. :)

rspi 10-14-2013 08:50 PM

Oh, the stealer here and in Little Rock both charge about $140 per hour. The job is about $1,200 out the door.

Kiss4aFrog 10-14-2013 09:19 PM

If I were you, I'd just cut at least 1050.00 off the price and sell it.:rolleyes:
You might get down there and not be able to get back up.

http://www.richmondmedicalalert.com/...an-200x300.jpg

When can I pick it up ??

rspi 10-14-2013 09:45 PM

LOL, you and your pics.

awfulwaffle 10-14-2013 10:04 PM

$140 per hour?! I just died a little.

JimKW 10-15-2013 02:11 PM

I just called the Dealer close to where I work and they said $600 w/o the Water Pump and add $200 if it needs a Water Pump, but doubts that it will. Said it includes the belt, two tensioners and the pulley. I thought he was mis-quoting the price so I said I'll have it in tomorrow and called back and talked to a guy I know from there and he said the same price and to ask for him and he'll take care of me. I didn't know he still worked there since they changed ownership. He used to give my daughter a real good price for repairs on her 99 S60 R and she would bake him cookies. He remembered her very well.

SO I'M KEEPING IT!

rspi 10-15-2013 02:47 PM

Lol, that is a great price. I usually only replace my water pumps when they are leaking, every 10 years or 200,000 miles.

rspi 10-15-2013 02:50 PM

Wait, $600 includes the parts? A Volvo dealer? No way!

If that is so, that is likely the lowest price dealer in the country.

JimKW 10-15-2013 02:58 PM

I said you mean $600 for parts and labor? And he said yes. That's why I said ok when can I bring it in? I said it has 215k on it, so I think I should change the Water Pump and he said he's been doing this for 30 years and seen them with well over 300K with the original Water Pump. Said if it's not leaking don't bother changing it.

rspi 10-15-2013 03:17 PM

I try to tell people that all the time and they look at me like I'm crazy. The Volvo water pumps can go a long time.

I spoke to a guy the other day that changed a water pump with is belt 20,000 miles ago and the after market pump failed and messed up his head. The Volvo pumps are designed to leak before they fail.

As for the cost of that job, wow! Is that a Volvo dealer?

JimKW 10-16-2013 09:31 AM

Yes it's MAG Vovlo here in the Columbus, OH area. They also sell VW's, Porsches, Audis, Bentleys, Range Rovers and BMW's along with any other exotic car you might want.

Car is in the shop right now. I'll let you know how much they actually charge and what all they do.

rspi 10-16-2013 10:39 AM

Cool, I'll have to schedule my next timing belt change when I go visit my daughter in Cincinnati. :)

JimKW 10-16-2013 04:41 PM

$604.14 total out the door. Labor was four hours at $85.00 per hour and the T/Belt kit was $199.63. They said they give a lesser rate and a parts discount for older cars.

GioM 10-16-2013 06:23 PM

As far as the OP goes, I hope that you keep your R. I am currently in the market for a 95 or so 850, I am setup to look at one near here for $2,000 for the Wagon Turbo. I would rather buy a 850R, let me know. I looked at the FCP Euro vids on YT and have decided to tackle most of the jobs on my own. It seems like the Swede's really know what they were doing when they designed these cars.


Originally Posted by JimKW (Post 368781)
$604.14 total out the door. Labor was four hours at $85.00 per hour and the T/Belt kit was $199.63. They said they give a lesser rate and a parts discount for older cars.

Nice!

On a not so related note this is my first post :D Between the FCP Euro vids and rspi vid's on YT I decided to get a Volvo and I also credited rspi with the referral based on his vids :)

JimKW 10-16-2013 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by GioM (Post 368789)
As far as the OP goes, I hope that you keep your R. I am currently in the market for a 95 or so 850, I am setup to look at one near here for $2,000 for the Wagon Turbo. I would rather buy a 850R, let me know. I looked at the FCP Euro vids on YT and have decided to tackle most of the jobs on my own. It seems like the Swede's really know what they were doing when they designed these cars.



Nice!

On a not so related note this is my first post :D Between the FCP Euro vids and rspi vid's on YT I decided to get a Volvo and I also credited rspi with the referral based on his vids :)

Here is some information. They started making the 850 Turbo in 94. In 95 they made the T5 which was essentially the same as the 94 Turbo, but they also made the T5R which only came in Black and Yellow (987 total and 185 were yellow imported to the USA). In 96 and 97 they no longer made the T5R they were just R's those two years. Try and find a yellow T5R, they are the hardest to find and the most unique. If you can find a yellow T5R wagon you have hit the jackpot.

GioM 10-16-2013 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by JimKW (Post 368790)
Here is some information. They started making the 850 Turbo in 94. In 95 they made the T5 which was essentially the same as the 94 Turbo, but they also made the T5R which only came in Black and Yellow (987 total and 185 were yellow imported to the USA). In 96 and 97 they no longer made the T5R they were just R's those two years. Try and find a yellow T5R, they are the hardest to find and the most unique. If you can find a yellow T5R wagon you have hit the jackpot.

Thanks for the info, I love to learn about these kinds of things. I wish you the best and hope that you keep it and somehow find a way to fix it yourself or with some help.

How much are the R's fetching nowadays?

Fittavagn 10-18-2013 02:59 AM


Originally Posted by JimKW (Post 368790)
If you can find a yellow T5R wagon you have hit the jackpot.

Only if you consider a US-market automatic car a "jackpot", irrespective of the color. Meanwhile, I'll keep looking for a Canadian or European 850R with the proper sort of gearbox.

97black850 10-18-2013 07:29 AM

I would say green is the most unique

Hi_miles850 10-18-2013 07:58 AM

My mechanic only charged me like 235 bucks for changing the timing belt. He did both cars for me recently. He replaced the tensioners as well.

rspi 10-18-2013 09:56 AM

Jim that $604 out the door is awesome for a dealer price. I'm stunned. Most dealers across the country charge $125+. The one here and at my last location are $140+ and they actually discourage people from bringing older cars in.

As for the cost of an R, it really depends on the owner and condition. I seen a R sitting in front of a luxury home on a golf course a few months ago that I paid $280 for. It was on its way to the salvage yard. The "son" had it off road and tore a hole in the oil pan, when the oil light came on he tried to make it 12 miles home. NOT! Any way, got a motor ($175), finder ($35), hood ($59), and a few odds & ends. My guess is that it cost $1,250 to get it back together so for about $1,600 the car is in good shape and back on the road. Sold it to a guy that had a '95 base that feels like it was an incredible Christmas present. (I made a thread "I saved a R").

I have seen them sell for as much as $5,500 in the past year. I'm just amazed as how nice the cars are and how well they drive. They are easy to repair and you can get parts real easy. I'd buy a 850 before a '06 Honda or Toyota all day long. And I will always do my best to save a R anytime I see one about to be salvaged if at all possible. I think it's worth saving any turbo model as well.

Kiss4aFrog 10-18-2013 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by Fittavagn (Post 368897)
Only if you consider a US-market automatic car a "jackpot", irrespective of the color. Meanwhile, I'll keep looking for a Canadian or European 850R with the proper sort of gearbox.

Since the majority of "us" are in the US market and an auto is all that's available , , , why yes jackpot is what I'd call it.

And you could always find a nice automatic and make it a manual if you have the skills and or the money :p

rspi 10-18-2013 11:22 AM

I have seen a few Canadian cars with manuals sold here. Also there has been a few converted cars sold as well.


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