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Old 09-06-2007 | 10:14 PM
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Hello everyone, love this forum as it holds a wealth of information.

One of my family members just recently bought a 2001 C70 "R" with 45,000 miles. My questions is whether or not there is such a thing as a "R" version of the C70? The previous owner drove the car for 4,000 miles and I assumed he put a "R" badge on it to make it look cool. I currently cannot see the car in person as it's getting re-painted, but the whole "R" thing is driving me crazy as I am going to be the owner of the car. From the badge it doesn't look like it was "placed" there by some teenager, rather it looks like it belongs.

If anyone could please provide any information as to a "R" version exists and what differentiates it from the standard C70. Or someone please tell me someone "badged" it for kicks.

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Old 09-06-2007 | 10:41 PM
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No there is nothing called a C70R. Someone just put an R badge on the back of the C70.
 
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Old 09-06-2007 | 10:48 PM
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Ah I see, had my hopes up for some strange beast of a car. It's ok though, can't wait to drive it and see what the cars like.

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Old 09-06-2007 | 11:00 PM
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However there is a LPT C70 and an HPT C70.

LPT = Low Pressure Turbo, runs smaller amount of boost.
HPT = High Pressure Turbo, runs more boost.
 
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Old 09-07-2007 | 01:46 AM
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I was told my car has the 2.3 litre which means it's the HPT version. I was searching around the forum and someone in another thread mentioned a "Rare R dealer specific suspension package."

My brother drives a 337/20th Ani GTI that he's chipped, I'm hoping after chipping the C70 I can at least compete haha.
 
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Old 09-07-2007 | 05:46 AM
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"chipping" a Volvo requires some substance. Not quite the same as a V.W.. You may want to question putting money into a 2001 Volvo as you are going to be using up your excess cash on the "normal" repairs...................which come quite frequently.
 
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Old 09-07-2007 | 10:06 AM
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I don't know about this R suspension package but....

Chipping your car is doable. However I would suggest you complete what is called a STAGE ZERO. This can be found in thr General Volvo section in the PINNED thread titled VolvoForum Resources Thread. With STAGE ZERO you also want to do a boost/vac gauge one that can read around 25 In Hg (Vaccum) / 25 PSI (Boost).

As far as an ECU goes your pretty limited to the PPC units on the market and there are three available. RICA softloader sold by Viva Performance, BSR PPC sold EuroSportTuning and IPD's softloader sold by IPD USA.

Scratch the idea of just the PPC units IPD has a regular ECU upgrade for the 1999+ model C70's.

Also if you visit these websites you will be able to see the estimated Hp/Ft-Lb increases with each PPC and regular ECU upgrades. I say estimated because everyone will be different. If you had six 2001 2.3L HPT c70's and each one got the same exact ECU upgrade the results on the dyno would most likely come out different. So to gain the most from the ECU upgrade I highly suggest you complete STAGE ZERO. With just an ECU upgrade and STAGE ZERO you might be able to hang with the GTI.

From what get the GTI you speak of is 180Hp stock and he has chipped it. So it is anywhere in the 200-220 range possibly? If I am wrong tell me.
 
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Old 09-08-2007 | 01:49 AM
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All the maintenance issues i've been reading about the C70 really concern me, It can't possibly be that bad. Maybe buying this car was a bad decision then.

That aside, looks like Stage 0 is quite expensive alone, whether or not I do that is going to be dependent on if I'm hit with thousands of little issues that needs fixing. Apparantly these issues are common according to this forum. Lame. But IPD seems to be the way to go based on the response toward the others just bumping boost changing timing and feeding fuel.

@S70driver, Yup it's 180HP stock but I believe they were way underrated to compete with their own VR6. He's making around 220-230 with downpipe and exhaust.

I've driven his car once and it's basically the fastest thing i've been in, that's taking into consideration that I drive a 93HP Mitsu Mirage so I'm hoping the C70 is considerably faster. I see the biggest handicap in the weight difference, and don't see a easy weight reduction method for the Volvo but that's okay as using brute force will work.

Thanks for the info S70driver!


 
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Old 09-08-2007 | 08:34 AM
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Weight Reduction

- Remove both front seats and replace one with a light weight racing seat. (EASY)
- Remove all crap from the trunk (EASY)
- Remove rear seat if you can
- Light weight rims (EASY)
- Remove all inside door panels and speakers
- Carpet removal
- Have a CF hood made for your car (EXSPENSIVE)
- Have a CF trunk lid made for you car (EXSPENSIVE)

These all can be done.
 
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Old 09-08-2007 | 08:56 AM
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The C70 would be a Shame in my opinion to do that much in weight reduction.
Why not just save up some and try to add extra power to make up for it.

Thats what I did with the wifes 850. It is just a 850 turbo. Supposed to be 222Hp stock.
I put in a Upsolute chip which is supposed to bump it up to 277HP (which I think is overrated) plus I put in a Manual boost controller. Set it to 10 PSI for now.

I am estimating the HP to be around 260HP. It blows the doors off of my T5-R at the moment which is 240HP stock.

If I were to have a custom 3 inch down pipe and 3 inch back with a good muffler I could sneak some more HP out of it.

If you do some good research and some nice mods over time the weight reduction would not be needed.

Unless you are deticating this to a track only car IMO the weight reduction would not be an option for me. (But thats just me)

Actually me I like to have a stereo system as well.
In the R I have a Box in the trunk housing 2 12's that are Heavy. The box weighs almost 100 LBS. I will do extra mods to make up for it.

I like to have a Fast and nice looking car. Not a fast and Stripped body.

Just like my Stang. I will make it as fast as I can with mods rather than stripping the body and interior to loose weight.
 
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Old 09-08-2007 | 09:49 AM
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Well you could go all out and have CF door panels made too, to compensate for uglyness.
 
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Old 09-08-2007 | 09:55 AM
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But you could also take all the money from the Carbon Fiber parts and stick it to mods and make it faster than it would ever be with just adding all the CF parts.
 
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Old 09-08-2007 | 10:20 AM
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ORIGINAL: tech

But you could also take all the money from the Carbon Fiber parts and stick it to mods and make it faster than it would ever be with just adding all the CF parts.
-Chip, Downpipe, Catback. This will net you some nice power no doubt. Probably around 50Hp. And these mods will cost anywhere from $2,000-$3,000 total depending on what you buy.

- CF parts. Yeah one part to make a mold will be around $3k so for a trunk lid and hood your looking at $6k+. But your loosing a ton of weight too. I know the s70 hood weighs around 60 LBS. The CF hoods that were made were 18 LBS. A big difference in weight.

- However if you didn't spend all that money on CF parts you could put it into the engine. Rods, Pistons, bigger turbo, Tuning, downpipe, catback, Port and Polish, 5 angle valve job, FMIC, Etc... Which would be nice. I'm sure with all this you would gain some nice nice nice power.
 
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Old 09-08-2007 | 10:38 AM
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I cannot find the exact info but loosing 100lbs only gives like 3 tenths of a second in 1/4 mile time.
That doesn't really justify 6 to 7 k on CF parts.

But would look really cool though.

Thats if you had the extra $$$$ to throw away.
 
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Old 09-08-2007 | 11:04 AM
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Yeah I have heard that 100 pounds only takes of so much time in the 1/4.

But when your car weighs close to 4,000 pounds anything is helpful in weight loss.
 
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Old 09-11-2007 | 02:53 AM
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the back of my c70 has the "R" on it too.... its got a turbo, ipd chip, EST cold air intake, HKS BOV, and a EST short shifter in it.... runs well
 
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Old 09-11-2007 | 06:10 AM
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Or you could take all your make believe money and spend it on a vehicle that already performs and is not front wheel drive! It amazes me when I read all of the proposed modifications to make a Volvo have a higher top end when the entire auto has to be a balance of handling (read: rear wheel drive) and acceleration, etc. Lastly....................that much money in an old auto?? Doesn't make sense and good luck finding a buyer. Lastly Angry.........your c70 will be 'fast' right out of the box and as TECH states, it will have a killer stereo and a luxury interior. Now that's a combination that cannot be beat!
 
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Old 09-11-2007 | 09:40 AM
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Reg I agree with you but I have to disagree. I am seen multiple videos of European FWD Volvo's making gobs of power and litterally are taking off the line just like an RWD.
 
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Old 09-11-2007 | 06:19 PM
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Hi S-70. Yup you are correct and Volvo last year campaigned two s60R's quite successfully other than they broke down quite a bit. What I was driving at is that.........and you know as you have put a lot of $'s in your s70...........a Volvo is expensive to modify and if you truly want it to handle (read: not understeer) it is horribly expensive. To make power is costly and the automatic transmissions in some Volvo models cannot handle much torque. I was trying to let the poster know that it was a whole lot different than hopping up a Volkswagen. There are a ton of e-36 BMW's on the market that truly handle like a race auto and perform beautifully for not much money. You and I enjoy our Volvos because they are unique and the majority of the motoring public are surprised when they can't "catch you" in their chrome muffler pocket rockets. By the way, you are doing a nice job in replying to so many posters as often as you do.

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Old 09-12-2007 | 05:33 PM
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I agree, insuring the car is fully featured inside the cockpit as well as formidable on the street would be an awesome combonation. Forget the weight loss, I'll take whatever power I can make and keep the interior intact. IPD/Evovle it is.

@805c70, Did you put the "R" there?
 



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