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Timing belt jumped, cylinder head shot
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I have a 2013 Volvo S60 T5 2.5L AWD that died on the side of the road. Long story short, garage said they called Volvo and they no longer produce the engine or parts for it. I tried looking for a used head unit but they are hard to find and to tell the truth, I don't think I'm mechanically inclined to take on such a big job. I just got the car last September and I still owe on it. It has 57k miles on it. I was looking for advice for how much to sell it for. I know right now, it's just a very expensive paperweight. My other thinking was to parts it out and maybe I could recoup some money to pay off the loan. I figured, headlights, tail lights, starter...etc. What would be the hot items that I could remove from the car to sell. Of course, if anyone would like to buy the car, shoot me an offer. It is in excellent condition, it still looks new. It's a shame it's heart has been ripped out. I loved that car.
Thanks!
Thanks!
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these cars are "interference" engines meaning the pistons and valves overlap - when the timing belt failed the pistons will hit the exhaust valves. So you need to rebuild or replace the head. As noted, check out car-part.com to see what a used head will cost. If you can do the work great, if not have a shop estimate hours to replace the head. (my guess is its in the 10-12 hours = $1500 in shop labor) Add that to the cost of a replacement head of say $750 and related gaskets and supplies for another $250 you're looking at 2500 USD. next go to KBB.COM to find the private party sale value of your car and subtract the repair cost to estimate a sale price. Considering its a 2013, if you are a buy and hold type of owner, there's no reason you can't expect another 10 years of service after the repair. The lesson learned here is if you buy a used car via a loan, its worth considering an extended warranty.
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Sorry for your loss.
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these cars are "interference" engines meaning the pistons and valves overlap - when the timing belt failed the pistons will hit the exhaust valves. So you need to rebuild or replace the head. As noted, check out car-part.com to see what a used head will cost. If you can do the work great, if not have a shop estimate hours to replace the head. (my guess is its in the 10-12 hours = $1500 in shop labor) Add that to the cost of a replacement head of say $750 and related gaskets and supplies for another $250 you're looking at 2500 USD. next go to KBB.COM to find the private party sale value of your car and subtract the repair cost to estimate a sale price. Considering its a 2013, if you are a buy and hold type of owner, there's no reason you can't expect another 10 years of service after the repair. The lesson learned here is if you buy a used car via a loan, its worth considering an extended warranty.
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Designing an engine with a cockamamie rubber band to drive the cams should be considered engineering malpractice. 70 years ago Jaguars would routinely lose their timing chain tensioners - lot of noise but no serious damage.
BTW, I have owned 5 Volvos - 2 of the 5 suffered engine problems - '76 265 camshaft issues @ 47K miles and '03 V70 - lost a cylinder @ 102K mies. Current '15 V60 under the "oil ring cloud @ 55K miles" - 2 (3?) out of 5! Volvo engines are borderline junk.
BTW, I have owned 5 Volvos - 2 of the 5 suffered engine problems - '76 265 camshaft issues @ 47K miles and '03 V70 - lost a cylinder @ 102K mies. Current '15 V60 under the "oil ring cloud @ 55K miles" - 2 (3?) out of 5! Volvo engines are borderline junk.
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I replaced many 260 camshafts back then - prescribed method was to drill holes in the firewall to be able to get them out of the back of the head without head removal - then fill the holes with a Volvo part number rubber plug! Made a lot on those cars!
Funny the Peugeot 604 used the same engine - and did not seem to have the same camshaft/rocker problems.
Funny the Peugeot 604 used the same engine - and did not seem to have the same camshaft/rocker problems.
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I replaced many 260 camshafts back then - prescribed method was to drill holes in the firewall to be able to get them out of the back of the head without head removal - then fill the holes with a Volvo part number rubber plug! Made a lot on those cars!
Funny the Peugeot 604 used the same engine - and did not seem to have the same camshaft/rocker problems.
Funny the Peugeot 604 used the same engine - and did not seem to have the same camshaft/rocker problems.
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You wouldn't be singing the SI6's praises if you had a failed READ unit either.
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Sure, no timing belt replacement. But I've made plenty of money resealing vacuum pumps, replacing one way clutch pulleys, tightening alternator drive pulleys that loosened, replacing blown up idlers on those engines. Didn't have those problems with the 5 cylinders...
You wouldn't be singing the SI6's praises if you had a failed READ unit either.
You wouldn't be singing the SI6's praises if you had a failed READ unit either.
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Not sure if I totally agree that a timing chain is always a better solution than a timing belt - timing chains require lubrication which means they need to be internal to the water pump which complicates the design and build costs and changes the overall engine packaging size. Chains are also heavier and noisier than timing belts. Having to replace the belt/idler/tensioner once every 10 years is not a huge investment IHMO - figure $75 a year in service cost. Timing chains do wear out on occasion so there's no guarantee that you get a service free life either particularly if the car wasn't serviced regularly. With that noted, Toyota also used timing belts in the early 2000s and as their engines evolved, they moved most to timing chains by 2010 and Volvo is doing the same starting with the modular 6s and 8s - not sure about the newest t4 and t5s - so its a matter of reading up on your model year and engine type. FYI, here's a handy link to book mark:
https://www.volvotechinfo.com/index....ltInterval.pdf
https://www.volvotechinfo.com/index....ltInterval.pdf