Volvo S70 Made from 1998 to 2000, this sporty model replaced the 850 sedan and instantly became a hit.

I can't believe it !!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 1, 2013 | 08:34 AM
  #1  
nonturbo's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
Default I can't believe it !!

I can't believe there is no experienced members on this site that haven't read and at least commented on my last post !!
It's just an engine swap process . I just need experienced help on what difficulty level this is considered to be ... I am a tech , it's been a while although I've worked on this car since 2001 , never did this major repair on Volvo cars before . Just need some "pointers" from someone that has ! If you comment , Thanks. If you help even better.
 

Last edited by nonturbo; Aug 1, 2013 at 08:40 AM.
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2013 | 08:38 AM
  #2  
rspi's Avatar
Administrator
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 15,736
Likes: 36
From: Albuquerque, NM
Default

Huh?...
 
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2013 | 08:41 AM
  #3  
rspi's Avatar
Administrator
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 15,736
Likes: 36
From: Albuquerque, NM
Default

My wife wants to know how you put the word "JUST" in front of ENGINE SWAP?
 
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2013 | 08:42 AM
  #4  
nonturbo's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
Default

Thx rspi , nobody posted a responce to my last post regarding "engine swap" . Can you help ?
 
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2013 | 08:44 AM
  #5  
nonturbo's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
Default

lol for the wife ! Know what you mean !
 
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2013 | 01:17 PM
  #6  
rspi's Avatar
Administrator
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 15,736
Likes: 36
From: Albuquerque, NM
Default

Hey man, I'm sure someone that has done the job will chime in. I think you simply have not given enough time for a response.

A motor swap is not something that 99% of these users have done. Heck, I still have not done one. I was planning to do one the week after next (been looking for a motor for 3 weeks) and backed out this morning due to time and equipment restraints. I don't have a motor hoist where I do most of my work.

From what I have read, the process is pretty straight forward. You remove the passenger side axle due to the fact that the axle is mounted to the motor, then pull everything loose to get it all out of the way. Then there are 6 or 8 bolts that joins it to the motor and tranny.

Is there any specific question that you have?
 
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2013 | 01:38 PM
  #7  
nonturbo's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
Default

Yea , I guess, it takes time to get the right people to notice... Found donor car, 131k mi..
Was advised to pull trans / motor to save time and twice the work. Sounds like a plan , just need that one or two pieces of info that could make this go easier !, like how to remove torque converter bolts without a lot of trouble... mounts as well, where and how many ?
 
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2013 | 11:15 PM
  #8  
dsharp's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 120
Likes: 0
From: Lake Jackson, tx
Default engine change

I'm not sure about the S70. I swapped the motor out in a S60. The best advice I can give you is to make a lifting eye for the left side that centers on the cylinder head. If you don't the motor tries to roll when you start to lift it out. It was also a very tight fit. There is a ring bolted on the flywheel with a notch cut out in it that has to be positioned at 6 o'clock so you can clear the torque converter on the way up. Take off the fan assembly off first to gain much needed working room. Take off the a/c compressor and tie it up out of the way. Take your time disconnecting all of the electrical connectors. They tend to get brittle. On the 60 the engine is really made to come out from the bottom but unless you have a lift that's not an option. Mine came out without removing the hood, or radiator. It's not a difficult job once you get the mount made so the engine will lift straight up. I just used a short piece of 1" x 2" 1/4" thick angle iron for a lifting eye. I think it took 3-4 hours to have it out on the ground.
 
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2013 | 11:25 PM
  #9  
dsharp's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 120
Likes: 0
From: Lake Jackson, tx
Default

I removed the convertor bolts through the hole where the starter bolts to the transmission housing. The motor mounts are on top of the engine. I seem to remember there is 1 torque strap and 1 mount below the starter on the right side. After you get the fan assembly out of the way I would remove the intake manifold and then it's pretty much downhill. I thought about taking the transmission out with it but there's a bunch of wiring/fuse blocks in the way. It wasn't that hard to stab the torque converter anyway.
 
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2013 | 07:22 AM
  #10  
rspi's Avatar
Administrator
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 15,736
Likes: 36
From: Albuquerque, NM
Default

If it's a car you plan to keep for a while, I would suggest replacing the sub-frame hydraulic mounts. If you go to www.iPdusa.com you can see a diagram of the mounts, etc.

The S/V70's come out of the top and the accessories come off easy. I would unbolt the AC compressor an try to leave it connected to the system.

You can reuse mounts that you can access easily as long as they are serviceable. This would be the perfect time to do clean up and custom painting if that matters to you.
 
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2013 | 09:24 AM
  #11  
ES6T's Avatar
Super Moderator
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 5,517
Likes: 73
Default

Your first post didn't really ask any specific question and most members probably haven't done a motor swap. But if you want me to be honest, if you are a tech and don't know how to remove the torque converter bolts, this might be quite a difficult job.

It does come out the top and the ones I have done I have kept the transmission attached and then swapped the motor once it was all out.
 
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2013 | 01:44 PM
  #12  
nonturbo's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
Default

Thanks to all that have responded ! I've found that on Volvo cars, the hard way, you should ask if there are any particular methods to do certain tasks as to not have to make an unnecessary repair or do something twice, or break some part that would take two weeks to replace ! $$... My first post was a little "thin" , but needed to get started with forum dialog . Most of my experience has been with Ford / GM shops ! Bought this car 2001, 352k mi. so far . As far as the torque converter bolts go it was apparent that the starter opening is the only access , and I was told that there was a hole in the block in the back of the engine, but seemed to small to navigate reasonably . So there are simple ways to do things if you only ask first ... Again thanks to all for your thoughts, I appreciate the help !!
 

Last edited by nonturbo; Aug 2, 2013 at 03:30 PM.
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2013 | 09:10 PM
  #13  
Kiss4aFrog's Avatar
Administrator
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,517
Likes: 12
From: Cape Coral, FL
Default

Number one, there are a ton of articles on engine swaps and engine builds here and on Volvospeed. A ton of them. Do you really expect someone to take the time to do it all again ??
Have you bothered to try and do a simple search like Ask or Google to see what pops ??

What is a light tech ? What experience do you have, what tools ?? Pulling an engine is simple for me. I have all the tools, engine stand, personal engine hoist. But someone with a thirty seven dollar Kmart tool set and no jack might find engine replacement a bit difficult no matter their skill level.

Before you start complaining give us something to work with to answer your question and post a question that makes sense.

What is a "denso" non-turbo engine replacement Why not just ask for information on pulling your engine. Simple, to the point and people know if they can help just by reading the title without having to open anything up.

Putting a title of "I can't believe it" is about as helpful as saying "Need help". Really doesn't give anyone any idea what's up or what you need.


How to with pictures. It's an 850 but the engines are pretty much identical. slight difference in wiring.
http://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/for...hp?f=1&t=28973
 
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2013 | 11:15 PM
  #14  
nonturbo's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
Default

The first post I had up did just that ... "asking for help" in a simple way, no one responded , even up until today no one has . This is the only post that has any response at all .. got your attention didn't it ! Will do better in the future to not get anyone's exhaust all clogged up ...I found , without any help , an engine removal posting complete with videos ! Great to have this available, why didn't "someone" just reply with that on my first post to begin with !!? I shop with Snap-on for tools ...
 
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2013 | 06:21 AM
  #15  
ES6T's Avatar
Super Moderator
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 5,517
Likes: 73
Default

Just because you have Snap On tools doesn't mean anything, as indicated by not knowing where to remove the torque converter bolts. You are missing his point.
 
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2013 | 08:51 PM
  #16  
nonturbo's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
Default

It doesn't, it just means that I've never removed the bolts on a Volvo trans before ! so your point is mute. "If" you read my post responses you would have seen that it made since to utilize the starter hole to remove them . I was looking for a possible alternative .
 

Last edited by nonturbo; Aug 5, 2013 at 10:09 PM.
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2013 | 08:24 AM
  #17  
ES6T's Avatar
Super Moderator
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 5,517
Likes: 73
Default

Okay, still not getting the point. Good luck.
 
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2013 | 10:39 PM
  #18  
gdog's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 2,052
Likes: 4
From: Pac NW
Default

Originally Posted by nonturbo
It doesn't, it just means that I've never removed the bolts on a Volvo trans before ! so your point is mute. "If" you read my post responses you would have seen that it made since to utilize the starter hole to remove them . I was looking for a possible alternative .
Hmm; as many before you have discovered, you generally catch more flies with honey than vinegar...

And FYI, Volvo trans R+R are pretty much like any other transverse trans R+R, and in the context of your usage, it's moot (not mute), and sense (not since).
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
rspi
General Volvo Chat
1
Jul 17, 2011 02:12 AM
JimKW
Off Topic
7
Jun 1, 2011 11:01 AM
Eric J
Off Topic
13
May 1, 2008 06:56 PM
Superfly
Volvo V50
5
Sep 9, 2007 10:21 AM
JimKW
Volvo 850
17
Mar 19, 2006 08:53 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:38 AM.