Are the internals (i.e.: pistonsand rods) and compressionas found on the 98-2000 GLT modelscapable of dealing with the stresses ofan upgraded turbo such as a19T?

 

Depends. We have had a few people that have bent rods with 18T's and 19T's. Thusly with that being said it is a good idea to upgrade your internals. Not to mention...

1. You should do STAGE ZERO first.

2. You should have an upgraded downpipe and catback.

3. Your 19T turbo.

4. Upgraded internals (Rods,Pistons)

5. ECU tuning

With these five things you should be good with an upgrade to a 19T turbo.

 

I think you'd be asking for trouble regarding your internals or you'd be running a turbo you won't be able to really get the max potential out of. Both cases including a correct tune, imo. Most tuners won't tune an ecu for a 19t in a glt stock internal set up but i'm sure you could find one that would. You'd be better off with a 16T, a down pipe and exhaust, maybe higher flowing injectors, the stock might flow high enough, a boost controller and an ecu tune. Depending on what you plan on doing with your car that may or may not be enough power gain.

 

You can run a 19T. However you want to take precaussions if you do.

Like I said above....

- STAGE ZERO is most important. Read about this in the PINNED thread titled VolvoForum Resources Thread in the General Volvo section.

- Upgraded rods and pistons.

- 3" mandrel bent downpipe to a 3" mandrel bent catback system with a free flowing straight through design muffler such as a BORLA or Magnaflow.

- The other key factor is tuning (ECU). IPD USA has a tune for an 18T and they have a full kit. Read up about it on their website. I am sure they will tune for a 19T as well. I know RICA can probably do it as well. Provide them before dyno sheets of what your car is now. Get A/F ratios with this as well. Then once you have everything on the car besides the ECU tuning get another dyno run with A/F ratios and send both of these to RICA. They will tune it to the specs and what the dyno sheets say. You could also try a Stand Alone System. There are a few out there that a few Volvo people have used.

*On a side note you may want to think about upgrading your intercooler as well. You could go with the drop in replacement from EST or my suggestion and I think the better choice would be to have a FMIC made for your vehicle, which can be done for around $500 or so. Also with all these mods mentioned above it would be well worth it to buy an A/F gauge. Not a wimpy Narrowband you want a Wideband A/F gauge. A Narrowband is just a pretty light show and wont tell you jack squat. If you get a Wideband A/F gauge it will give you a digital readout of what your A/F ratio's are which is what you want. Larger injectors might be a good idea as well. An Aquamist Water Injection System wouldn't hurt either.

I know it seems like I am just popping off very exspensive products that you should buy, but with what your saying you want to do with the 19T it is better to be safe then sorry as again a few people have bent rods which in the long run could cost you more then just doing a lot of these mods.

Price Break Down (Estimated Prices)

1. Stage Zero anywhere from $300-$500

2. Downpipe anywhere from a local place from $300-$1000 and prefabbed $749-$1200.

3. Catback Exhaust System from a local place from $300-$600 and prefabbed $600+.

4. ECU tuning depends on where you go and what you get but expect $700+ since your going to want a good tune not a crappy tune. And Stand Alone looking at probably $1000+.

5. Drop in intercooler $1100 and an FMIC $500-$1000.

6.19T is $1000

7. Rods and Pistons I'm guessing around $800-$1000.

8. Injectors $600

9. Aquamist is $573 + $271 for the monitor.

10. $250+ for the Wideband A/F gauge.

Close to $8k for all that if you take all the high prices and add them together.

 

Rica will not do an ecu tune for a 19t and a glt block, ask me how I know.

 

I'm sure they would if they knew you had all the supporting modifications for it. And if they wont then his only other choice is a local OBDII tuner or Stand Alone if IPD USA wont do it.

I'm sure they have their reasons not to, but if IPD can tune for an 18T RICA can tune for a 19T.

 

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I'm sure they have their reasons not to, but if IPD can tune for an 18T RICA can tune for a 19T.
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I went through it three years ago with a 97 glt that my youngest son has now. Every tuner I delt with would not consider a remap for a 19t with the glt block and the issue at the time was liability. There was nothing after the 18t on a glt as a vendor tune. That was then and maybe now there might be someone willing to do it, maybe speedtuning or upsolute, give them a try.
He didn't say if the car was a dd or a project car, that might influence what he can do. In any case, you could certainly put a 19t in that car, no doubt...how you modify the car beyond that will dertemine how much power you can safely produce with that turbo.

If it was me and the 16t didn't seem like it wasgonna do it for me then i'd go with the 18t tune, get the car set up right with the hardware that's availabe,call it a day and enjoy the hell out of it. A 16t on that car modified right will smoke a stock T-5 and not be real expensive in the set up. The dp would probably be the most costly unless you made it yourself or someone you know does it for you, followed by the ecu, cost wise.

 

I'm sure they have their reasons not to, but if IPD can tune for an 18T RICA can tune for a 19T.

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"I went through it three years ago with a 97 glt that my youngest son has now. Every tuner I delt with would not consider a remap for a 19t with the glt block and the issue at the time was liability. There was nothing after the 18t on a glt as a vendor tune. That was then and maybe now there might be someone willing to do it, maybe speedtuning or upsolute, give them a try.
He didn't say if the car was a dd or a project car, that might influence what he can do. In any case, you could certainly put a 19t in that car, no doubt...how you modify the car beyond that will dertemine how much power you can safely produce with that turbo.

If it was me and the 16t didn't seem like it wasgonna do it for me then i'd go with the 18t tune, get the car set up right with the hardware that's availabe,call it a day and enjoy the hell out of it. A 16t on that car modified right will smoke a stock T-5 and not be real expensive in the set up. The dp would probably be the most costly unless you made it yourself or someone you know does it for you, followed by the ecu, cost wise."


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No way do not go with Upsolute or SpeedTuning if your going to be doing this level of tuning.

 

You might also want to think about upgrading to the R manifold. Again exspensive but IMO worth it if you want to run a 19T without issues or very little issues if any.

Personally if I was going to think about running a 19T I would do everything I listed. It might be a lot of money but at least I know that it will be able to handle the 19T.

 

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Hey guys

Thanks for all the great feedback and suggestions. The way I'm going to go is...start at stage 0 and then purchase a stage 3 package from EuroSportTuning which will give me 266hp and 322lbs./tq with the stock turbo. With an upgrade to a 16t, I should reach my goal of 300hp.

 

I'd include Samco coolant and turbo hoses in that stage zero as well as a vacumn system hose upgrade to silicone. Your possibly original hoses won't like the increased pressure you'll be boosting to and it just makes good sense.

 

A boost gauge as well.

 

Hello everybody!

pls, coud anybody say, how much bhp and tourqe can I get for my s70 t5with 19T and stage3+ from evrosporttuning and asI understand will be good ifI fit an intercooler .

P.S. sorry for my english )

Thank in advance!

 

It is anyones guess.

 

at least supposedly ))))

 

To be honest your probably going to bend some rods with a 19T.