N/a - turbo difference
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RE: N/a - turbo difference
Well, I plan on running an aftermarket turbo/cam, and doing the T-5 trans swap, maybe even bore it out. I'm not looking to just get by with as little as possible to have a turbo car. I have an N/a 240 for my daily driver, so now I just want something to work on and mess around with on the weekend. In that situation, having a turbo engine to start with or not won't make much of a difference in price, will it?
#6
08-26-2006, 06:49 PM
RE: N/a - turbo difference
Yeah it will.
You can buy an 850 turbo, T5R or R for so much less then turboing a N/A engine.
The thing is, is that turboing an N/A take a lot of time for starters, a lot of money, and great tuning. You would spend more in PROPER tuning then anything else.
I bet you could spend upwards of $5,000 to have a n/a to turbo conversion and have it run decently. But if you want it to run perfectly I bet you will spend more then that to make it run properly.
See it just ins't worth it when it comes down to the line. Unless you got the time, the bucks and can find PROPER tuning.
It is so much easier to buy a turboed Volvo and work on it then turboing an N/A.
You can buy an 850 turbo, T5R or R for so much less then turboing a N/A engine.
The thing is, is that turboing an N/A take a lot of time for starters, a lot of money, and great tuning. You would spend more in PROPER tuning then anything else.
I bet you could spend upwards of $5,000 to have a n/a to turbo conversion and have it run decently. But if you want it to run perfectly I bet you will spend more then that to make it run properly.
See it just ins't worth it when it comes down to the line. Unless you got the time, the bucks and can find PROPER tuning.
It is so much easier to buy a turboed Volvo and work on it then turboing an N/A.
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08-28-2006, 08:49 PM
#10
10-12-2006, 04:19 PM
RE: N/a - turbo difference
ORIGINAL: S70driver
Yeah it will.
You can buy an 850 turbo, T5R or R for so much less then turboing a N/A engine.
I bet you could spend upwards of $5,000 to have a n/a to turbo conversion and have it run decently.
Yeah it will.
You can buy an 850 turbo, T5R or R for so much less then turboing a N/A engine.
I bet you could spend upwards of $5,000 to have a n/a to turbo conversion and have it run decently.
But you are so far from the truth. Turbo'ing N/A engines is not only affordable but can yeild great results some even superior to factory turbo cars.
B21/B23
Thesse motors take well to turbo'ing AKA +T. If you can do the work your self some poeple have done it for 5-6 hundred bucks most for under $1000. In todays market it cheaper to find a clean 242 dl and turbo it then it is to find a clean 242ti.
If you can find a 240 with the B23f with the mid 9's compression. This is a perfect car. You can get the ecu's from the 1984 760 turbo some ford brown top injectors and they are plug n play with the 240. Just plug the computers in, splice in the resistors add intercooler and this set up can easily handle 10 psi
B230
Thesse motors you have to be carfull anything befor 1990 hase the smaller rods and does not do well with a +t.
90 -93 are good for it using the larger rods and better placment of the thrust bearing. 93 and newer are the best for this
due to the combination of the 90+ block added with oil squirters for the pistons.
Dont write off doing this the lower compression N/a motors 9-?-1 yeaild great off boost power and can handle upwards of 10psi safley.
If your still interested P.M me and i will send you some links that can better help you with turbo'ing your N/A.
#11
10-12-2006, 06:44 PM
RE: N/a - turbo difference
ORIGINAL: AlexR
No disrespect intended S70
But you are so far from the truth. Turbo'ing N/A engines is not only affordable but can yeild great results some even superior to factory turbo cars.
B21/B23
Thesse motors take well to turbo'ing AKA +T. If you can do the work your self some poeple have done it for 5-6 hundred bucks most for under $1000. In todays market it cheaper to find a clean 242 dl and turbo it then it is to find a clean 242ti.
If you can find a 240 with the B23f with the mid 9's compression. This is a perfect car. You can get the ecu's from the 1984 760 turbo some ford brown top injectors and they are plug n play with the 240. Just plug the computers in, splice in the resistors add intercooler and this set up can easily handle 10 psi
B230
Thesse motors you have to be carfull anything befor 1990 hase the smaller rods and does not do well with a +t.
90 -93 are good for it using the larger rods and better placment of the thrust bearing. 93 and newer are the best for this
due to the combination of the 90+ block added with oil squirters for the pistons.
Dont write off doing this the lower compression N/a motors 9-?-1 yeaild great off boost power and can handle upwards of 10psi safley.
If your still interested P.M me and i will send you some links that can better help you with turbo'ing your N/A.
ORIGINAL: S70driver
Yeah it will.
You can buy an 850 turbo, T5R or R for so much less then turboing a N/A engine.
I bet you could spend upwards of $5,000 to have a n/a to turbo conversion and have it run decently.
Yeah it will.
You can buy an 850 turbo, T5R or R for so much less then turboing a N/A engine.
I bet you could spend upwards of $5,000 to have a n/a to turbo conversion and have it run decently.
But you are so far from the truth. Turbo'ing N/A engines is not only affordable but can yeild great results some even superior to factory turbo cars.
B21/B23
Thesse motors take well to turbo'ing AKA +T. If you can do the work your self some poeple have done it for 5-6 hundred bucks most for under $1000. In todays market it cheaper to find a clean 242 dl and turbo it then it is to find a clean 242ti.
If you can find a 240 with the B23f with the mid 9's compression. This is a perfect car. You can get the ecu's from the 1984 760 turbo some ford brown top injectors and they are plug n play with the 240. Just plug the computers in, splice in the resistors add intercooler and this set up can easily handle 10 psi
B230
Thesse motors you have to be carfull anything befor 1990 hase the smaller rods and does not do well with a +t.
90 -93 are good for it using the larger rods and better placment of the thrust bearing. 93 and newer are the best for this
due to the combination of the 90+ block added with oil squirters for the pistons.
Dont write off doing this the lower compression N/a motors 9-?-1 yeaild great off boost power and can handle upwards of 10psi safley.
If your still interested P.M me and i will send you some links that can better help you with turbo'ing your N/A.
#12
10-12-2006, 07:54 PM
RE: N/a - turbo difference
You can get 6-8 psi on stock turbo ecu icu managment. If you chosse you could go to a stand along like megasquirt {usualy under $500}. People have been turbo'ing N/A engines for a long time and it is alot simpler and cost effective then you seem to belive. I personaly owned a 83 242 dl with a b23f+t and was extreemly happy with the result and did the complete job for under $1,000. Now there is more knowledge and simpler ways of doing it.
But as far as the fwd volvo's i would agree with you about the work and cost effect would not be worth it. But with how htf the 240 turbos let alone the 242 turbos are becoming to find in good shape a +t is a great option for the mechanicaly inclined.
But as far as the fwd volvo's i would agree with you about the work and cost effect would not be worth it. But with how htf the 240 turbos let alone the 242 turbos are becoming to find in good shape a +t is a great option for the mechanicaly inclined.
#13
10-13-2006, 10:39 AM
RE: N/a - turbo difference
Re the front wheel drive Volvos-just get a used S40,have a chip upgrade and hold on. My S40 is running 13 pounds of boost, is 1/2 inch lower,with bigger fr and rear bars,cold air intake and Heico exhaust.Makes 200 plus hp,will peg the rev limiter and is a blast to drive.And all save the chip upgrade was done in my driveway.BJ
#14
10-13-2006, 02:29 PM
RE: N/a - turbo difference
ORIGINAL: hocbj23
Re the front wheel drive Volvos-just get a used S40,have a chip upgrade and hold on. My S40 is running 13 pounds of boost, is 1/2 inch lower,with bigger fr and rear bars,cold air intake and Heico exhaust.Makes 200 plus hp,will peg the rev limiter and is a blast to drive.And all save the chip upgrade was done in my driveway.BJ
Re the front wheel drive Volvos-just get a used S40,have a chip upgrade and hold on. My S40 is running 13 pounds of boost, is 1/2 inch lower,with bigger fr and rear bars,cold air intake and Heico exhaust.Makes 200 plus hp,will peg the rev limiter and is a blast to drive.And all save the chip upgrade was done in my driveway.BJ
#15
10-13-2006, 02:37 PM
RE: N/a - turbo difference
ORIGINAL: AlexR
[&:] Im confused by your post. Your running 13psi with a chip upgrade? I remember reading somewhere. {i belive VS forums} the S40's come from the factory running like 18 psi with a mid 9 SCR?
ORIGINAL: hocbj23
Re the front wheel drive Volvos-just get a used S40,have a chip upgrade and hold on. My S40 is running 13 pounds of boost, is 1/2 inch lower,with bigger fr and rear bars,cold air intake and Heico exhaust.Makes 200 plus hp,will peg the rev limiter and is a blast to drive.And all save the chip upgrade was done in my driveway.BJ
Re the front wheel drive Volvos-just get a used S40,have a chip upgrade and hold on. My S40 is running 13 pounds of boost, is 1/2 inch lower,with bigger fr and rear bars,cold air intake and Heico exhaust.Makes 200 plus hp,will peg the rev limiter and is a blast to drive.And all save the chip upgrade was done in my driveway.BJ
My 1999 s70 awd comes with a 13g stock and was only running 5-7PSI from the factory. Hell even the 850R and T5-R's weren't running 18PSI from the factory. 10-15PSI max from the factory.
#17
10-13-2006, 03:59 PM
RE: N/a - turbo difference
I remeber being in shock when i read it but took it with a grain of salt due to my limited knowledge of the newer cars. 13psi still sounds low with a chip/remap? From what ive seen/read 20psi seems to be the breaking point on most whiteblock motors.
I plan on running 8-10 psi on my B6304 "n/a" with only a mild compression drop.
I plan on running 8-10 psi on my B6304 "n/a" with only a mild compression drop.
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10-13-2006, 04:26 PM
#19
10-13-2006, 04:37 PM
RE: N/a - turbo difference
ORIGINAL: hocbj23
You can get 3 stages of upgrades on most Volvo aftermarket chips. Mine is Stage 1 and that is plenty of boost for me.My car is a daily driver, gets great fuel economy, and will suck the doors off most rattle can Hondas with loud mufflers. Nuff said?BJ
You can get 3 stages of upgrades on most Volvo aftermarket chips. Mine is Stage 1 and that is plenty of boost for me.My car is a daily driver, gets great fuel economy, and will suck the doors off most rattle can Hondas with loud mufflers. Nuff said?BJ
#20
10-13-2006, 09:05 PM