DEAD VOLVO ??im thinkin not
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HELLO EVERY ONE IM RICHARD FROM FLORIDA![EEK!](https://volvoforums.com/forum/images/smilies/eek.gif)
1996 VOLVO 850 TURBO PLATINUM EDITION
drained engine fluids
remove thermostat -ohh dear there wasnt one installed
removed and inspected turbocharger for damage and /or wear
removed exhaust head
removed fuel rail and inspected and cleaned injectors
removed melted spark plug wires and plugs
removed distributor/ rotor and rear seal
removed intake inspected for damage
removed oil pan to inspect cam bearings -no damage seen no metal in pan :-)
removed pcv and all lines connecting- blocked and badly damaged
removed valve cover
removed and inspected tappets
cleaned and oiled tappets
removed 12 head bolts
removed head
inspected front and rear oil seals on intake and exhaust cams
removed all traces of old gaskets from head and valve cover
removed old gasket material from head and from valve cover
cleaned oil pan and sump- installed new gasket
cleaned piston head surfaces
cleaned and polished gasket mating surfaces
cleaned intake and exhaust valve areas
de- carbonized exhaust manifold and exhaust ports and valves
cleaned oil passages and checked for blockages and repaired them
cleaned and degreased engine head
cleaned turbocharger
install thermostat
replaced all injector seals (TO DO)
installed new pcv and all lines for pcv (TO DO)
replaced oil and coolant lines (TO DO)
replaced rear oil seals (TO DO)
replaced head gasket (TO DO)
installed new head gaskets (TO DO)
installed new intake gasket (TO DO)
replaced head bolt with new ones (TO DO)
re-installed head to torque specifications (TO DO)
re-installed tappets (TO DO)
re-installed intake and exhaust cams (TO DO)
installed new pcv and all lines for pcv (TO DO)
re-installed turbocharger (TO DO)
re-installed exhaust manifold to torque specifications (TO DO)
re-attached exhaust to turbocharger (TO DO)
replaced melted spark plug wires and plugs (TO DO)
replaced rotor and distributor (TO DO)
All this needed done after my motor decided to die 2 weeks ago right after i drove it off the car dealers lot plus $ 600 to be towed from Miami to Naples Florida
i will add fotos when i figure out how - i have been taking pics as i do every step
THIS HAPPENED -- DRIVING HOME IT PUKES OIL ALL OVER THE FREEWAY - ENGINE JUST WENT QUIET AND SHUT DOWN ALL DASH LIGHTS ON - FIRST INSTINCT - TURN OFF IGNITION - PUT IN NEUTRAL - COAST- CAME TO STOP OFF ROAD WAY COP COMES GIVES TICKET FOR OIL SPILL 200$
NOW IM HAPPY-ANY WAY I GET IT HOME AND STRIP THE MOTOR DOWN TO ITS UNDER PANTS - LAST THING I HEARD FROM THE N-GINE WAS A GASPING SORT OF SOUND - WELL, THE CARS NAME IS "PEARL" AND SHE KNOWS IM GOING TO FIX HER AND MAKE HER BETTER THAN BEFORE
-- SORRY BOUT CAPS
i think she knows im doing her good she burps(just a wierd noise like shes tryin to talk ) every now and then lol
it should be finished in 2 or 3 weeks
BTW ive never done any thing like this before but its fun- gettin all oily greasy and grimy
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1996 VOLVO 850 TURBO PLATINUM EDITION
drained engine fluids
remove thermostat -ohh dear there wasnt one installed
removed and inspected turbocharger for damage and /or wear
removed exhaust head
removed fuel rail and inspected and cleaned injectors
removed melted spark plug wires and plugs
removed distributor/ rotor and rear seal
removed intake inspected for damage
removed oil pan to inspect cam bearings -no damage seen no metal in pan :-)
removed pcv and all lines connecting- blocked and badly damaged
removed valve cover
removed and inspected tappets
cleaned and oiled tappets
removed 12 head bolts
removed head
inspected front and rear oil seals on intake and exhaust cams
removed all traces of old gaskets from head and valve cover
removed old gasket material from head and from valve cover
cleaned oil pan and sump- installed new gasket
cleaned piston head surfaces
cleaned and polished gasket mating surfaces
cleaned intake and exhaust valve areas
de- carbonized exhaust manifold and exhaust ports and valves
cleaned oil passages and checked for blockages and repaired them
cleaned and degreased engine head
cleaned turbocharger
install thermostat
replaced all injector seals (TO DO)
installed new pcv and all lines for pcv (TO DO)
replaced oil and coolant lines (TO DO)
replaced rear oil seals (TO DO)
replaced head gasket (TO DO)
installed new head gaskets (TO DO)
installed new intake gasket (TO DO)
replaced head bolt with new ones (TO DO)
re-installed head to torque specifications (TO DO)
re-installed tappets (TO DO)
re-installed intake and exhaust cams (TO DO)
installed new pcv and all lines for pcv (TO DO)
re-installed turbocharger (TO DO)
re-installed exhaust manifold to torque specifications (TO DO)
re-attached exhaust to turbocharger (TO DO)
replaced melted spark plug wires and plugs (TO DO)
replaced rotor and distributor (TO DO)
All this needed done after my motor decided to die 2 weeks ago right after i drove it off the car dealers lot plus $ 600 to be towed from Miami to Naples Florida
i will add fotos when i figure out how - i have been taking pics as i do every step
THIS HAPPENED -- DRIVING HOME IT PUKES OIL ALL OVER THE FREEWAY - ENGINE JUST WENT QUIET AND SHUT DOWN ALL DASH LIGHTS ON - FIRST INSTINCT - TURN OFF IGNITION - PUT IN NEUTRAL - COAST- CAME TO STOP OFF ROAD WAY COP COMES GIVES TICKET FOR OIL SPILL 200$
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i think she knows im doing her good she burps(just a wierd noise like shes tryin to talk ) every now and then lol
it should be finished in 2 or 3 weeks
BTW ive never done any thing like this before but its fun- gettin all oily greasy and grimy
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Last edited by radio16; 12-14-2009 at 12:14 PM.
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i need to order replacement parts but the only problem now is - im out of work due to car accident and i cant go back to work - so my dilema is buying the parts- i have a really nice computer i just finished building if any one wants to buy it so i can get what i need computer selling for $ 2300 U.S. OBO -THAT WILL COVER SHIPPING
Last edited by radio16; 12-14-2009 at 01:08 PM.
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here are the pics
https://volvoforums.com/forum/pictur...pictureid=1758
https://volvoforums.com/forum/pictur...pictureid=1755
https://volvoforums.com/forum/pictur...pictureid=1739
https://volvoforums.com/forum/pictur...pictureid=1739
https://volvoforums.com/forum/pictur...pictureid=1732
https://volvoforums.com/forum/pictur...pictureid=1727
the last one seemed to me to be the cause and effect of what is now happening. upon removal of the pcv and all connecting lines (what was left of them) they were totally blocked with sand and oil and the smaller fitting at the top right of the sensor was burnt shut with oil.
https://volvoforums.com/forum/pictur...pictureid=1758
https://volvoforums.com/forum/pictur...pictureid=1755
https://volvoforums.com/forum/pictur...pictureid=1739
https://volvoforums.com/forum/pictur...pictureid=1739
https://volvoforums.com/forum/pictur...pictureid=1732
https://volvoforums.com/forum/pictur...pictureid=1727
the last one seemed to me to be the cause and effect of what is now happening. upon removal of the pcv and all connecting lines (what was left of them) they were totally blocked with sand and oil and the smaller fitting at the top right of the sensor was burnt shut with oil.
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https://volvoforums.com/forum/pictur...pictureid=1731
https://volvoforums.com/forum/pictur...pictureid=1735
https://volvoforums.com/forum/pictur...pictureid=1746
https://volvoforums.com/forum/pictur...pictureid=1747
https://volvoforums.com/forum/pictur...pictureid=1751
https://volvoforums.com/forum/pictur...pictureid=1753
https://volvoforums.com/forum/pictur...pictureid=1743
https://volvoforums.com/forum/pictur...pictureid=1745
i didnt get photos of the valves being done - i got so into the work i forgot and i wasnt about to take it all apart again to get pics -- anyway its all fine and clean now - strange how 1 small item can cause so much trouble - all because of the stupid pcv valve and supporting hoses bein blocked - take a bit of advice people -IT PAYS TO CHECK THE PCV SYSTEM OCCASIONALLYAND CHECK ALL YOUR SMALL VACUUM LINES ON A REGULAR BASIS!!
https://volvoforums.com/forum/pictur...pictureid=1735
https://volvoforums.com/forum/pictur...pictureid=1746
https://volvoforums.com/forum/pictur...pictureid=1747
https://volvoforums.com/forum/pictur...pictureid=1751
https://volvoforums.com/forum/pictur...pictureid=1753
https://volvoforums.com/forum/pictur...pictureid=1743
https://volvoforums.com/forum/pictur...pictureid=1745
i didnt get photos of the valves being done - i got so into the work i forgot and i wasnt about to take it all apart again to get pics -- anyway its all fine and clean now - strange how 1 small item can cause so much trouble - all because of the stupid pcv valve and supporting hoses bein blocked - take a bit of advice people -IT PAYS TO CHECK THE PCV SYSTEM OCCASIONALLYAND CHECK ALL YOUR SMALL VACUUM LINES ON A REGULAR BASIS!!
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I'm wondering how that sandy burnt oil crap gets in there to begin. My oil pan was full of it.
BTW radio16 why not pull the bock, measure the cylinders, hone, install new rings, measure the ring end gap, measure the pistons, if you are going this far? maybe go all the way?
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i would but i have no means to do so- no lift- no tree - no chain - no help- from what i've done so far i honestly think the pistons are fine and so are the rings i did an inspection from the bottom of the car oil pan off it was full of crap(there was a magnet glued to the bottom of the pan- but funny enough no sand (well a tiny bit). it looks as though the cylinders were honed not to long ago i still see the marks-XXXXX pattern looks fresh- if they had been original you wouldnt have seen any marks would you? the timing belt and water pump are new too -not my doing . the rings seem fine - i poured oil into each cylinder and left it sit over night and there was no loss of oil at all - not discernable anyway. when i hand cranked the engine to set the timing marks i listened for any kind of strange noises and there was nothing --smooth as silk musta cranked it round 3 times kept missing mark- lol kind of hard to do alone-any advice on anything will be greatly appreciated. next step is re-construction- i did a cold assembly today without gaskets- and it looks good. BTW there is no "flame trap" on an 850 turbo Bobec, sorry to tell ya bro- i would assume it got nasty because someone ran it with out an air filter and it also has no thermostat but i will fix that
DONT BE LAZY NEVER RUN CAR WITHOUT THERMOSTAT OR AIR FILTER - UNLESS YOU LOVE TO WASTE HARD EARNED CASH!!
DONT BE LAZY NEVER RUN CAR WITHOUT THERMOSTAT OR AIR FILTER - UNLESS YOU LOVE TO WASTE HARD EARNED CASH!!
Last edited by radio16; 12-14-2009 at 09:27 PM.
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Nope... the Turbo cars don't have a separate flame trap like the N/A cars do. N/A cars have both a flame trap and an oil trap. Your car has just the oil trap
Put another way: on cars that have them, the flame trap is PART of the PCV system, but isn't the whole thing. It's a common source of confusion.
Last edited by Carrots; 12-14-2009 at 10:27 PM.
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Yes... the NA 850s all have a flame trap. Its purpose is to prevent flames from any backfire from reaching- and igniting- the hot crankcase gases that the PCV system is recirculating back into the engine through the PCV port located right by the throttle body on NA cars. Turbo cars have the PCV port on the intake side of the turbocharger, so any backfire would have to travel backwards through the throttle body, intercooler and associated plumbing, backwards through the turbo, then into the PCV tube where it connects to the hose between the turbo and air filter box. This is physically impossible, hence there is no need for a flame trap on turbocharged Volvos.
And yes, I've heard people call the PCV system the "flame trap." However, this leads to confusion for owners of NA cars, causing them to think that when they actually need the PCV system replaced that all they need is to change the flame trap, which is a tiny disk of plastic that costs $.50, rather than the whole PCV system. This is why you shouldn't call the PCV system the flame trap. The flame trap is a part of the PCV system on NA cars.
And yes, I've heard people call the PCV system the "flame trap." However, this leads to confusion for owners of NA cars, causing them to think that when they actually need the PCV system replaced that all they need is to change the flame trap, which is a tiny disk of plastic that costs $.50, rather than the whole PCV system. This is why you shouldn't call the PCV system the flame trap. The flame trap is a part of the PCV system on NA cars.
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