Volvo 850 Made from 1993 to 1997, this Volvo line was available in both a wagon and a sedan, both with were graced with several trim levels.

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Old 06-14-2013, 10:04 PM
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Here are a couple of pics of the hole and the plug that came out of it.

I pulled the drain plug and it has a magnet on it, almost NO metal shavings. I'm surprised. I guess all the oil leaked out before the metal starting grinding away.
 
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Old 06-14-2013, 10:25 PM
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wow, this shows how careless some idiots can be. hope you can bring this car back to life again.smh
 
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Hey that must be how it ran out of oil!

If he ran it until it would not run any more I would say it is safe to say that the lower end is shot. A rebuild or new motor seems in order. I would be curious to see what the main caps and cam look like.

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Old 06-14-2013, 11:23 PM
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So you guys want me to drop the pan and take some pictures?

I plugged the hole with some JB Wheld tonight. Not real good but maybe good enough to add some oil and try to start it.
 
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So you guys want me to drop the pan and take some pictures?
Yes! I take it you can drop the pan w/o pulling the engine?
 
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Old 06-14-2013, 11:57 PM
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YES YES YES YES, We want pictures.LOL. actually you would want to drop the pan and see how it looks in there. may be not much of a damage. who knows, the car stopped to prevent further damage.
 
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Old 06-15-2013, 05:46 AM
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Unfortunately these 850's didn't have cut off systems like a lot of the newer cars. Volvo has a tendency to think their owners are smart. I think I'm going to crank it over by hand this morning. Then drop some oil in it and see if she fires up. If it's quiet (which I would be shocked) I'll do a compression test.
 
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Old 06-15-2013, 09:49 AM
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l would to see a video of the whole car. that would be awesome. are you going to find another pan from the junk yard? l dont think resealing the pan wiill work due to the hole size
 
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Old 06-15-2013, 10:26 PM
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Hole patched. Now to add oil and see if she'll start in the am.

 
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Fingers crossed
 
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Old 06-16-2013, 10:40 PM
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I went and started the car today. I think it has a "spun" bearing. After running several minutes it still has noise in the lower end. I also pulled some metal off the drain plug.

After I started it and let it run about 5 minutes, I shut if off and changed the oil and filter. This time I put in some full synthetic. Cranked it back up and let it run for about 30 minutes. I drove it around a little, it has no power but it is also running "open loop". What causes that?

Here is the link to the project video's. I'll run a compression test on it within the next couple of days.

 
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Old 06-17-2013, 11:33 AM
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That's a bummer the engine is toast. Sometimes you could luck out with no damage. For example, my mother in law ran her '96 Isuzu Rodeo out of oil and overheated it, which in turn blew the water pump. She drove it until the motor locked slam up. It would not crank at all after it shut off. I put it up in the air, hung myself off of a long breaker bar with a pipe on it (extra leverage) and broke it free. Replaced the water pump and timing belt, changed the oil, and over 15,000 miles later, she's still driving the damn thing. I showed her how to check the oil as these Isuzu motors use TONS of oil.
 
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Old 06-17-2013, 11:38 AM
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I heard that some cars shut down and restart later. Something about pistons expanding and later contracting so the person has a 2nd chance. That is rare from what I've learned.

It helps when the car manufacturer designs a shut off in the system.
 
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Old 06-17-2013, 11:44 AM
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I don't believe any manufacturers have an oil pressure cutoff system. I worked for Lexus for 8 years, they didn't have one. Loss of oil pressure happens so fast, a cuttoff system wouldn't be able to react fast enough anyway.
 
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Old 06-17-2013, 12:13 PM
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I'm going to run a compression test soon to see if compression has been compromised. If so, I'll look for another motor. If compression is still good I might pull the pan and replace anything I see damaged down there.
 
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compression should be good. fingers crossedddd
 
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Well, looks like it runs, just not particularly well. Think a new engine is in order at this point?
 
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Old 06-19-2013, 10:53 PM
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Ran compression today. And the numbers are (drum roll please...)

Hot and dry: 143 / 125 / 118 / 142 / 151

Wet: 184 / no other #'s needed.
 
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Old 09-14-2013, 11:18 PM
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Well, I went to Memphis then to Dallas a few weeks ago to find a motor for this R. The guy that I have been helping with his '95 850 base seems to want it pretty bad. He doesn't seem to believe that the R will be a different beast, like putting a jetpack on a turtle.

Found a wrecked 850 Turbo in Dallas with 192,000 miles on it. The car seems to have been taken care of a little so I did a manual compression test on it and came up with 90 - 95 across the board (hand cranking) so I pulled and purchased it, then dragged it home, and delivered it to the guy that will install it. I don't have a lift nor the time to deal with it myself.

Started the car to try to drive it to the installer, 35 miles away and the car made it about a block to the gas station and the motor locked up. So we had it towed to the mechanic to have it installed. I ordered several parts from iPd to help with the motor swap. Throttle body intake, turbo coolant tube, PCV system, etc., dropped those parts off while I was on my way moving west.

Checked on the car a couple of days ago and the mechanic said it was ready to go and running very strong.

The new owner picked it up yesterday and could not stop telling me how fast his new car is. Couldn't get him off the phone and he was in it less than 20 minutes. I spoke to him again today and he actually said that he's a little afraid of the car because it's so fast and doesn't seem to have a limit. I just laughed and told him to take it easy.

Hurrah!!! A R saved. It cost the new owner about $2,500.
 
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