Pulleys and Water Pump life expectancy
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Pulleys and Water Pump life expectancy
I figure that I should share this question with other Volvo owners that share the same engine as my 98' C70 HPT (96'-97' 850R motor) \/\/\/\/
I am concerned about the condition of my pulleys which are now showing their age by making noise when its cold out at startups until the engine warms. My car has just under 106k and the timing belt was done at 67k but I have no proof of the pulleys or water pump being done. How much longer do you think I have before my pulleys give out? I heard that our water pumps usually hold up until the next scheduled belt service but I worry about the pulleys. My gf's pulleys gave out on her last weekend while on a road trip to the Baltimore inner harbor leaving her stranded on the side of the highway in her 01' BMW 325ci with 106k. Should I go for an early timing belt service just to get the pulleys and water pump out of the way, or can I hold off for another 20k? I dont put alot of miles on my car (maybe 10k annual).
I am concerned about the condition of my pulleys which are now showing their age by making noise when its cold out at startups until the engine warms. My car has just under 106k and the timing belt was done at 67k but I have no proof of the pulleys or water pump being done. How much longer do you think I have before my pulleys give out? I heard that our water pumps usually hold up until the next scheduled belt service but I worry about the pulleys. My gf's pulleys gave out on her last weekend while on a road trip to the Baltimore inner harbor leaving her stranded on the side of the highway in her 01' BMW 325ci with 106k. Should I go for an early timing belt service just to get the pulleys and water pump out of the way, or can I hold off for another 20k? I dont put alot of miles on my car (maybe 10k annual).
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08-23-2012, 12:49 AM
I got all the pulleys and timing belt replaced 1.5 years ago, 110K.
Last month, my water pump started to squeak and leak. Replaced that earlier this month @ 120+K.
If you're hearing noise at the passenger side of the engine, you might as well replace the old parts. I had a light squeak in which I thought was a random accessory pulley, but that turned out to be the water pump..
We really can't say how much longer you have until those parts fail, but it's better to be safe than sorry.
Last month, my water pump started to squeak and leak. Replaced that earlier this month @ 120+K.
If you're hearing noise at the passenger side of the engine, you might as well replace the old parts. I had a light squeak in which I thought was a random accessory pulley, but that turned out to be the water pump..
We really can't say how much longer you have until those parts fail, but it's better to be safe than sorry.
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08-23-2012, 08:21 AM
I've seen these OEM pumps go for 190-200k miles. Same with the rollers/ hydraulic tensioners.
There's a lot of concern on the internet about "early" replacement, and understandibly so since these are interFEARance engines.
The parts you mentioned are very hardy, but for peace of mind, go ahead and do it.
BTW, contrary to internet folklore, its usually bearing failure or tensioner failure that throws T belts on these cars; not the belt itself.
If your belt fails, you'll be more than stranded; you'll need a new top end for your motor-
Good luck, just make sure it's done right, and use the highest quality parts you can afford (i.e. Volvo OE).
There's a lot of concern on the internet about "early" replacement, and understandibly so since these are interFEARance engines.
The parts you mentioned are very hardy, but for peace of mind, go ahead and do it.
BTW, contrary to internet folklore, its usually bearing failure or tensioner failure that throws T belts on these cars; not the belt itself.
If your belt fails, you'll be more than stranded; you'll need a new top end for your motor-
Good luck, just make sure it's done right, and use the highest quality parts you can afford (i.e. Volvo OE).
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I had pretty much the same concerns when I bought my '95. Odo read 161,XXX miles but was broke and no info on how long it had been that way. Previous owner didn't have a maint history so I just replaced the timing belt, water pump and tensioner and rollers plus the serpentine belt. Not a bad job. I did it for peace of mind and so I wouldn't have to buy a new engine if the belt broke.
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08-24-2012, 05:37 AM
Heed the warnings... The roller is screaming at you, I'm about to cost you $5,000, I can't take it anymore... Please help, I don't want to send this car to the bone yard but I'm all used up...
I wouldn't start the car again if I didn't have to. A trashed head is simply not worth the risk.
DO IT OR HAVE IT DONE TODAY!!!
I wouldn't start the car again if I didn't have to. A trashed head is simply not worth the risk.
DO IT OR HAVE IT DONE TODAY!!!
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08-24-2012, 08:02 AM
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08-24-2012, 08:11 AM
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This is why I replace the water pump EVERY time I do a timing belt on my own vehicle and always recommend it to customers. It's also why I use the best quality water pump too. They may be good for 200K in someones opinion but you may have the one that will barely make 70K. It's also a matter of not wanting to go in there and mess with that belt any more than I need to. That's just me.
It's cheap insurance. My 850 had no maintenance history and for it's condition when I purchased it I'm pretty sure there wasn't any history !! First thing I did was the belt, WP, pulleys, serp belt and timing belt tensioner. I'll likely skip the idler and tensioner pulleys and the hydraulic tensioner on the next belt but I would do them every other.
The cost of a water pump is nothing compared to the engine. If you only damage the head you're lucky as the missing valves in the picture did a number on the pistons and cylinder walls. Belt breaks at idle, maybe just a bent valve or two. Foot in it at higher Rs ... see picture
It's cheap insurance. My 850 had no maintenance history and for it's condition when I purchased it I'm pretty sure there wasn't any history !! First thing I did was the belt, WP, pulleys, serp belt and timing belt tensioner. I'll likely skip the idler and tensioner pulleys and the hydraulic tensioner on the next belt but I would do them every other.
The cost of a water pump is nothing compared to the engine. If you only damage the head you're lucky as the missing valves in the picture did a number on the pistons and cylinder walls. Belt breaks at idle, maybe just a bent valve or two. Foot in it at higher Rs ... see picture
Last edited by Kiss4aFrog; 08-24-2012 at 08:14 AM.
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08-24-2012, 11:35 PM
This is why I replace the water pump EVERY time I do a timing belt on my own vehicle and always recommend it to customers. It's also why I use the best quality water pump too. They may be good for 200K in someones opinion but you may have the one that will barely make 70K. It's also a matter of not wanting to go in there and mess with that belt any more than I need to. That's just me.
It's cheap insurance. My 850 had no maintenance history and for it's condition when I purchased it I'm pretty sure there wasn't any history !! First thing I did was the belt, WP, pulleys, serp belt and timing belt tensioner. I'll likely skip the idler and tensioner pulleys and the hydraulic tensioner on the next belt but I would do them every other.
The cost of a water pump is nothing compared to the engine. If you only damage the head you're lucky as the missing valves in the picture did a number on the pistons and cylinder walls. Belt breaks at idle, maybe just a bent valve or two. Foot in it at higher Rs ... see picture
It's cheap insurance. My 850 had no maintenance history and for it's condition when I purchased it I'm pretty sure there wasn't any history !! First thing I did was the belt, WP, pulleys, serp belt and timing belt tensioner. I'll likely skip the idler and tensioner pulleys and the hydraulic tensioner on the next belt but I would do them every other.
The cost of a water pump is nothing compared to the engine. If you only damage the head you're lucky as the missing valves in the picture did a number on the pistons and cylinder walls. Belt breaks at idle, maybe just a bent valve or two. Foot in it at higher Rs ... see picture
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