Time for a new catalytic converter?
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Time for a new catalytic converter?
Picked up an 850 Turbo about a month ago with 85k miles. Replaced the motor oil with Mobil 1, did a tranny flush, and ran Seafoam treatment. Also, changed the serpentine belt and installed a boost gauge.
Some service history:
60k mi.: Front o2 sensor
62k mi.: Ignition coil, fuel pressure regulator, dist. cap/rotor/wires
65k mi.: Timing belt, shift lever lockout switch, & coolant cap
67k mi.: Air mass sensor & turbo drain pipe seal
84k mi.: Both front CV axles & upper engine mount bushing
I cleared a long list of codes on the computer. The only one that keeps on coming back is 443 (Three Way Cat efficiency); it doesn't throw the check engine light. I can tell when the code is present when turbo boost will not go above 6psi. Once the computer is reset, I can boost at 9.6psi for a few days until the code comes back. Does it appear that the cat needs to be replaced?
Perhaps the results to the emissions tests may help:
Feb 2006
15 mph; 1725 rpm
%CO2 MEAS 14.8; %O2 MEAS .1
HC (PPM): MAX 84; AVG 21; MEAS 23
CO (%): MAX .49; AVG .06; MEAS .22
NO (PPM): MAX 692; AVG 150; MEAS 238
25 mph; 1717 rpm
%CO2 MEAS 14.8; %O2 MEAS .1
HC (PPM): MAX 49; AVG 13; MEAS 13
CO (%): MAX .46; AVG .05; MEAS .19
NO (PPM): MAX 711; AVG 136; MEAS 305
Jan 2005
15 mph; 1767 rpm
%CO2 MEAS 15.10; %O2 MEAS .11
HC (PPM): MAX 84; AVG 21; MEAS 59
CO (%): MAX .49; AVG .06; MEAS .21
NO (PPM): MAX 692; AVG 150; MEAS 359
25 mph; 1739 rpm
%CO2 MEAS 15.00; %O2 MEAS .07
HC (PPM): MAX 49; AVG 13; MEAS 33
CO (%): MAX .46; AVG .05; MEAS .20
NO (PPM): MAX 711; AVG 136; MEAS 321
Some service history:
60k mi.: Front o2 sensor
62k mi.: Ignition coil, fuel pressure regulator, dist. cap/rotor/wires
65k mi.: Timing belt, shift lever lockout switch, & coolant cap
67k mi.: Air mass sensor & turbo drain pipe seal
84k mi.: Both front CV axles & upper engine mount bushing
I cleared a long list of codes on the computer. The only one that keeps on coming back is 443 (Three Way Cat efficiency); it doesn't throw the check engine light. I can tell when the code is present when turbo boost will not go above 6psi. Once the computer is reset, I can boost at 9.6psi for a few days until the code comes back. Does it appear that the cat needs to be replaced?
Perhaps the results to the emissions tests may help:
Feb 2006
15 mph; 1725 rpm
%CO2 MEAS 14.8; %O2 MEAS .1
HC (PPM): MAX 84; AVG 21; MEAS 23
CO (%): MAX .49; AVG .06; MEAS .22
NO (PPM): MAX 692; AVG 150; MEAS 238
25 mph; 1717 rpm
%CO2 MEAS 14.8; %O2 MEAS .1
HC (PPM): MAX 49; AVG 13; MEAS 13
CO (%): MAX .46; AVG .05; MEAS .19
NO (PPM): MAX 711; AVG 136; MEAS 305
Jan 2005
15 mph; 1767 rpm
%CO2 MEAS 15.10; %O2 MEAS .11
HC (PPM): MAX 84; AVG 21; MEAS 59
CO (%): MAX .49; AVG .06; MEAS .21
NO (PPM): MAX 692; AVG 150; MEAS 359
25 mph; 1739 rpm
%CO2 MEAS 15.00; %O2 MEAS .07
HC (PPM): MAX 49; AVG 13; MEAS 33
CO (%): MAX .46; AVG .05; MEAS .20
NO (PPM): MAX 711; AVG 136; MEAS 321
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RE: Time for a new catalytic converter?
I had front O2 sensor tripping CEL a few times -I would clear the code (so the car does not run in retarded ignition mode), and it would come back after a few days. After a while, it gave "inefficient cat" code -changed the sensor, and no more problems.
PS
Seems too much service for the mileage- front O2 at 60 K miles? Both axels?
What year is your 850?
Also, some reported getting wrong replacement O2 sensor (from Autozone, etc) -was your O2 OEM replacement or not?
PS
Seems too much service for the mileage- front O2 at 60 K miles? Both axels?
What year is your 850?
Also, some reported getting wrong replacement O2 sensor (from Autozone, etc) -was your O2 OEM replacement or not?
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RE: Time for a new catalytic converter?
Tech: The only time it misfired on me was when I installed the wrong model spark plugs that Autohauz shipped. Other than that, besides have no cold/high idle speed, everything has been running smooth.
Yurionel: 1995; most services were done by an independent shop. I believe that oem parts were used. Looks like only the CV boots were replaced and not both axles. Front o2 sensor ($180) was replaced in June '03; codes 443 and 435 (front o2 sensor slow response) were tripped. I've cleared the codes and nothing else comes up now except for 443.
Yurionel: 1995; most services were done by an independent shop. I believe that oem parts were used. Looks like only the CV boots were replaced and not both axles. Front o2 sensor ($180) was replaced in June '03; codes 443 and 435 (front o2 sensor slow response) were tripped. I've cleared the codes and nothing else comes up now except for 443.
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