Can anyone recommend a good fault code reader?
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Can anyone recommend a good fault code reader?
Hi all,
New to this forum. As I am about to aquire a 2005 S40 (2.4i), I am interested in getting a fault code reader. Is there a code reader that will read specific Volvo codes, or are the so called "Volvo" code readers all just generic devices?
I am comming from a 2000 BMW 320i (Euro version), for which I have a BMW specific reader made by Peake, which has very detailed and specific BMW code descriptions. Does such a device exist for Volvo? A simple generic reader does not do it for me except as a last resort.
Any informed comment welcome. Thanks.
New to this forum. As I am about to aquire a 2005 S40 (2.4i), I am interested in getting a fault code reader. Is there a code reader that will read specific Volvo codes, or are the so called "Volvo" code readers all just generic devices?
I am comming from a 2000 BMW 320i (Euro version), for which I have a BMW specific reader made by Peake, which has very detailed and specific BMW code descriptions. Does such a device exist for Volvo? A simple generic reader does not do it for me except as a last resort.
Any informed comment welcome. Thanks.
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Volvo uses OBD-II like everyone else. The issue, I believe, is the detail the code readers give you versus the dealers diagnostic tool. For most people the generic code reader works just fine. Usually you can figure out what it's telling you. Sometimes it's not so obvious and you look for answers from others who have had that code.
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On OBDII vs manufacturer specific:
As I understand it OBDII codes are generic/mandatory fault codes as required by government(s) so that independent workshops are able to diagnose faults which are emissions systems related. (and maybe somewhat more than that).
By way of an example let me ask a question:
My BMW specific Peake fault code reader easily pinpointed a bad inlet camshaft position sensor. (car would start and idle OK, but engine would die when gas was applied).
This reader also pinpointed a bad thermostat heater element.
Will a generic OBDII reader do this for me? Will it allow me to reset fault codes and service indicators?
Maybe I should ask the question:
Will a generic OBDII reader read every singe fault code stored in the control unit(s), including specific Volvo codes, or only generic type codes?
OBDII probably uses a simple serial port protocol such as RS232 which any computer buff/electronics tech is familiar with, and the universal OBDII D physical connector. The secrets are in the actual codes which can be read and interpereted.
I'm getting a 2005 2.4i S40 tomorrow, and as a DIY'er, I'm just trying to increase my knowlege base, and avoid dependence on expensive dealers. Trying to get the big picture here. Thanks.
As I understand it OBDII codes are generic/mandatory fault codes as required by government(s) so that independent workshops are able to diagnose faults which are emissions systems related. (and maybe somewhat more than that).
By way of an example let me ask a question:
My BMW specific Peake fault code reader easily pinpointed a bad inlet camshaft position sensor. (car would start and idle OK, but engine would die when gas was applied).
This reader also pinpointed a bad thermostat heater element.
Will a generic OBDII reader do this for me? Will it allow me to reset fault codes and service indicators?
Maybe I should ask the question:
Will a generic OBDII reader read every singe fault code stored in the control unit(s), including specific Volvo codes, or only generic type codes?
OBDII probably uses a simple serial port protocol such as RS232 which any computer buff/electronics tech is familiar with, and the universal OBDII D physical connector. The secrets are in the actual codes which can be read and interpereted.
I'm getting a 2005 2.4i S40 tomorrow, and as a DIY'er, I'm just trying to increase my knowlege base, and avoid dependence on expensive dealers. Trying to get the big picture here. Thanks.
Last edited by Wally_E; 01-08-2012 at 07:47 AM.
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OBD II and Volvo's
On OBDII vs manufacturer specific:
As I understand it OBDII codes are generic/mandatory fault codes as required by government(s) so that independent workshops are able to diagnose faults which are emissions systems related. (and maybe somewhat more than that).
By way of an example let me ask a question:
My BMW specific Peake fault code reader easily pinpointed a bad inlet camshaft position sensor. (car would start and idle OK, but engine would die when gas was applied).
This reader also pinpointed a bad thermostat heater element.
Will a generic OBDII reader do this for me? Will it allow me to reset fault codes and service indicators?
Maybe I should ask the question:
Will a generic OBDII reader read every singe fault code stored in the control unit(s), including specific Volvo codes, or only generic type codes?
OBDII probably uses a simple serial port protocol such as RS232 which any computer buff/electronics tech is familiar with, and the universal OBDII D physical connector. The secrets are in the actual codes which can be read and interpereted.
I'm getting a 2005 2.4i S40 tomorrow, and as a DIY'er, I'm just trying to increase my knowlege base, and avoid dependence on expensive dealers. Trying to get the big picture here. Thanks.
As I understand it OBDII codes are generic/mandatory fault codes as required by government(s) so that independent workshops are able to diagnose faults which are emissions systems related. (and maybe somewhat more than that).
By way of an example let me ask a question:
My BMW specific Peake fault code reader easily pinpointed a bad inlet camshaft position sensor. (car would start and idle OK, but engine would die when gas was applied).
This reader also pinpointed a bad thermostat heater element.
Will a generic OBDII reader do this for me? Will it allow me to reset fault codes and service indicators?
Maybe I should ask the question:
Will a generic OBDII reader read every singe fault code stored in the control unit(s), including specific Volvo codes, or only generic type codes?
OBDII probably uses a simple serial port protocol such as RS232 which any computer buff/electronics tech is familiar with, and the universal OBDII D physical connector. The secrets are in the actual codes which can be read and interpereted.
I'm getting a 2005 2.4i S40 tomorrow, and as a DIY'er, I'm just trying to increase my knowlege base, and avoid dependence on expensive dealers. Trying to get the big picture here. Thanks.
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I have yet to hear of anything available to the DIY Volvo mechanic other than a generic code reader. I have a cheap Actron scanner and it reads and erases codes just fine. But as you might guess, it's the generic OBD-II codes by number and description. If your t-stat goes bad you get a generic code that says something like coolant temp below thermostat temp. Is it the t-stat, coolant temp sensor, or something else? In my case it was the T-stat but others have had a bad sensor.
IMHO, the generic reader is better than nothing and way better than paying the dealer a ton of money. For those with no desire to purchase one your local Advance, Autozone, O'reilly's, etc, will read the codes for you. They will not erase them though. If you borrow the reader and pull your own codes you can erase them easy enough.
IMHO, the generic reader is better than nothing and way better than paying the dealer a ton of money. For those with no desire to purchase one your local Advance, Autozone, O'reilly's, etc, will read the codes for you. They will not erase them though. If you borrow the reader and pull your own codes you can erase them easy enough.
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Hudini- unless something has changed they'll erase them as well. At least here in Jersey they do, everything else you said, however, I agree with. There is no denying that the OBD II code reader is way better than a trip to Volvo. I actually bought a Actron pocket scanner for my daughter to keep at school. Volvo's throw ghost codes all the time and it was easier for me to get a nights sleep knowing what her CEL was showing when she is 200 miles away. I think it was 50 bucks and doesn't come close to the 2 bigger readers I own, but the average Joe would be wise to buy one, especially the do it your selfer's. Happy motoring....Bama
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So let me try and summarise here.
A generic code reader will read all codes from the car, both OEM specific and generic, but they will all be in generic form.
If I want a more specific interpretation I will need to use the Vadis software to cross reference generic to Volvo specific?
Also is there a known "easter egg" to reset a service due indicator, or will a code reader have this capability?
Some good input here, thanks guys.
A generic code reader will read all codes from the car, both OEM specific and generic, but they will all be in generic form.
If I want a more specific interpretation I will need to use the Vadis software to cross reference generic to Volvo specific?
Also is there a known "easter egg" to reset a service due indicator, or will a code reader have this capability?
Some good input here, thanks guys.
Last edited by Wally_E; 01-12-2012 at 10:00 AM.
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