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Old Nov 5, 2014 | 10:36 AM
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Hello, and thanks in advance for any help anyone can lend.

We have a 2001 Volvo S60 2.4t

I'm trying to get the kinks worked out of this car so my daughter can drive it safely as she just got her license. We're having a couple issues, but the one that concerns me the most is we get an error every couple weeks "brake failure, pull over ASAP". I end up having to disconnect the negative terminal to the battery, etc... I bought a new battery hoping that would fix the problem, which I read on here, it didn't. If anything it's happening more often now.

I know this topic has come up a few times in here but most of the posts are a little older and I haven't found one where someone found a DIY solution. So I wanted to revive it in hopes that there has been a solution found. Anyone know how to fix this? I really don't have the money to take the car to the shop or else I definitely would.

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Old Nov 5, 2014 | 07:02 PM
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Without the codes, you can't do much besides guess, which will cost more than a proper diagnosis. Volvo has free diagnosis at many dealerships.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2014 | 07:29 PM
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Without the codes, you can't do much besides guess, which will cost more than a proper diagnosis. Volvo has free diagnosis at many dealerships.
Which volvo dealerships are you referring to, because nothing is for free. lol If it's a loyal customer, yes.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 04:33 PM
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It's free if they participate in Volvo Service Advantage
 
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Old Nov 9, 2014 | 12:29 PM
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Without the codes, you can't do much besides guess, which will cost more than a proper diagnosis. Volvo has free diagnosis at many dealerships.
Do you know if it's atleast safe to drive until repaired?

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Old Nov 9, 2014 | 01:13 PM
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The ABS function and traction control may not work properly, but regular braking should be unaffected.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2014 | 01:17 PM
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Could just be the brake fluid level sensor, or and ABS sensor.
but it should be "safe" to drive the car, but you might not have the ABS function.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 04:26 PM
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A failure at a critical moment could be fatal. I most certainly not let anyone drive it...except my ex!In a MVA, should your "blackbox" be read. You may not be covered by insurance due to negligence.
 

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Old Nov 14, 2014 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by pyro71
A failure at a critical moment could be fatal. I most certainly not let anyone drive it...except my ex!In a MVA, should your "blackbox" be read. You may not be covered by insurance due to negligence.

Well ****, don't like hearing that, thanks though.

What sucks is I can't find anyone within 1 1/2 hours away to even look at it as no mechanic where I live works on Volvo's. It's nuts, do these cars suck that bad to work on that not even local import mechanics will look at it? lol, it's crazy.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2014 | 10:25 AM
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I have no idea why some shops are afraid to work on Volvos. They aren't complicated.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2014 | 07:01 AM
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I have no idea why some shops are afraid to work on Volvos. They aren't complicated.
Because volvos are hard to work with, requires more time expected depending on the matter. Believe me I've seen it all. From a car that got struck by lighting and some side shop tried to fix it leaving all the modules outs. Lol from trying to figure out what's wrong with a radio and cutting the most network. Doing a timing belt and having the wrong tensioner installed. etc... They can be intimidating. Like the new 4 cylinders, some techs are intimidated at first. Plus most sideshows don't have the special tools.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2014 | 08:51 AM
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They are not hard to work on for most jobs.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2014 | 07:20 AM
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imo volvo's aren't bad to work on, most parts are easy to service.
and all shops should be able to do brake work, if they can't do that, then they shouldn't call themselves mechanics :P
 
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 07:59 PM
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A failure at a critical moment could be fatal. I most certainly not let anyone drive it...except my ex!In a MVA, should your "blackbox" be read. You may not be covered by insurance due to negligence.
Pyro, just wanted to clarify something. Are you stating it's seriousness based on not having anti-lock brakes in a situation where you may need them, or is it because this electronic anomaly can prevent the brakes from working completely at any given moment?

This is of course based on the apparent likely hood of the issue being related to the ABS module.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 05:53 AM
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It will not cause the regular brakes to not function, just the anti-lock function.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ES6T
It will not cause the regular brakes to not function, just the anti-lock function.
Right on, thanks for the help.

I finally found someone to look at it, but they charge $110 per hour, lol, wow. It sucks to think he's gonna throw that 110 at me and just tell me pretty much what I already know (I'm assuming), but I guess I don't really have a choice.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by inkstaind318
Pyro, just wanted to clarify something. Are you stating it's seriousness based on not having anti-lock brakes in a situation where you may need them, or is it because this electronic anomaly can prevent the brakes from working completely at any given moment?

This is of course based on the apparent likely hood of the issue being related to the ABS module.
I'll tell you what happened to me recently. I was getting abs and traction control warning. I went to turn left into traffic in a intersection and the engine cut out leaving me in the intersection. If traffic was coming fast and I darted out to make it through when the engine cut because of traction control. I could have been t-boned and seriously injured..or killed. This problem i had was serious but I didn't realize it. Ended up being a broken reluctor ring.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 05:06 PM
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That wasn't the reason your car stalled.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2014 | 06:35 PM
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That wasn't the reason your car stalled.
It's my understanding that traction control will cut power going to drive wheels if slippage is detected. Please tell me if I am wrong and explain the cause of no power when traction control dummy light is flashing along with spin control/abs warning.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2014 | 08:11 PM
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You said the engine cut out. The traction control does not kill the engine.

If you had to mash the gas to make the turn and spun the wheels, maybe you shouldn't have made the turn. Trying to speed through can cause wheel slip in any car. Driving like that will get you killed- not the traction control.
 
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