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Old 10-31-2022, 07:44 AM
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Looking to buy a 2008 S60 for my son. Car is badged as 2.4T and has a B5254T (not T2) motor installed (verified at block stamping and timing cover tag) BUT the VIN is “59”. I suspect motor swap but unsure. Am I looking at a transplant or was the 2.4T available this late (2008) in a Gen 1 S60? If so, should VIN be different? After EXTENSIVE internet research just can’t find a clear answer. According to CarFax: clean title, two owner car: 1st owner was the dealer (18K as demo). 2nd is seller (92K). No accidents or major engine repairs listed. HELP!!!
 
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Old 10-31-2022, 07:58 AM
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The B5254T engine is a 2.4L engine, but it was used in older volvo 850 family... that would be a weird swap as the 850 used a distributor, not coil packs. Mounts are completely different, and lots of other things. I would double check the engine code. It should be easy to see the distributor on the driver side of the engine if that engine is actually in the car. I have no clue how they would get the computers to communicate and get that car to run. It would be cheaper to get a new car than to get that system to work.

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B5254T

The B5254T is a 2.4 L (2,435 cc) straight-five. It is turbocharged and intercooled with a power output 193 PS (142 kW; 190 hp)[158] at 5100 rpm,[111] with 270 N⋅m (200 lb⋅ft) of torque at 1800–5000 rpm.[111] Compression ratio is 9.0:1. It is equipped with Bosch Motronic 4.4 engine management for model years 1997 and 1998.[159] It is equipped with Bosch ME7 engine management for model year 1999. Boost pressure is limited to 0.06 psi (0 kPa).[160]

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Dingus 1,

Don't have access to the vehicle right now but will later today.

I found the same info on Wiki but there are conflicts there. When digging deeper (clicking links to 850 & S70 dedicated Wiki pages) it states that the B5254T is a 2.5L. The conflict implies an error on Wiki somewhere. The dedicated S60 Wiki page refers to B5254T2 as a common power plant for 2003-2008. I've been trying to find additional source material but the trail is coming up cold. Is it possible that Volvo didn't include the "2" in the identification (sticker and block) in 2008? Seems odd but this is my first go around with Volvo and have no comparisons. In any case, your recollection is that the B5254T configuration would have a distrib and not individual coils?
 
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Old 10-31-2022, 01:55 PM
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Yeah, see the two images below. First is the B5254T2, second is B5254T


 
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Volvo has recycled the two digit VIN code in the past so you need to check the wiki for what's appropriate to your car. That said, the VIN won't tell you if somebody has swapped a block or not but the engine stamping will if its not a direct replacement.

What I find interesting is that the S60 WIKI https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_S60#S60 shows that a 2008 model would be badged as a 2.5T and that the 2.4T was in the 2001-2003s so is there a typo in there?
 
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Dingus 1,

Definitely photo 1. Given the production date, Volvo must have decided the “2” wasn’t necessary after the B5254T designation on the engine ID sticker and block stamp. Obvious to those who know but very confusing for a Noob like me. Thanks for your help.
 
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Old 10-31-2022, 05:24 PM
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mt6127,

Thanks for you help. Who know’s where the badge on the deck lid came from (body repair shop). That said the 2.4 badge and the cross pollination of info on Wiki pages is what prompted my questions.

Based on the production year and the info Dingus 1 provided above I’m going to assume it’s a B5254T(2) in spite of the missing “2” on engine ID sticker and block stamping. Have a good one.
 
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Yep the VIN 59 points to the B5254T2 which is appropriate to the 2008 2.5T. Usually the iteration number (ie T2 vs T3) can be pointing to something unrelated to the block like enhancements to the engine management system or accessories so its possible Volvo used the same block stamping when stuffing a 2.5T into and S60 (T2) vs the S40/V50s (T3). That level of detail isn't in the WIKIs so I'd be curious if you can find another 2008 S60 or S40 to check out to see. As to the car itself, are there any other signs of engine repair or front end body work? (usually pretty easy to spot via inspection - overly clean engine mounting points, paint overspray, wrinkles on body panel mounting points etc. PS - Private shop work won't show up on a Carfax unless they or the insurance reports in, dealers for the most part do. That's why its a good idea to invest 100-200 bucks to get a professional inspection done with the car on a lift if you have concerns.
 
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mt6127,

Thanks all good points and the additional “2” (or lack thereof) in the engine ID makes sense. I’m pretty savvy on “Seeing the signs” of body repair. Car looks solid in that aspect and is actually being sold with some minor body damage done by owners teenaged daughter. Just weird that the badge on the deck lid is “2.4T”. Would it be possible to swap the trunk lid from an earlier S60? I think I read something about 2008 being a “Facelift” year.
 
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badges can be popped on and off w/o changing the trunk lid but its plasible that somebody swapped the parts to fix a dent. It looks like that panel is interchangeable for all the gen 1 S60s (ie 2001 to 2009 or so)
 
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Yeah of course, just odd that the badge is wrong. Since you’ve confirmed the interchangeability, it was either an easy “Lid swap” or the correct 2.5T badge was damaged and the body shop mistakenly ordered the 2.4T when making the repair? I’ll just ask the seller. He may never have noticed since it was his daughter’s car. Have a good one.
 
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