I might be getting my Dad's 99 S70 GLT since he is looking into a cross country, although i would prefer a T5, I'll take a free car. my question is what can i do to the GLT to get it near the same performance level, if it's possible, of a T5.

 

If you can find a '98 T5 for a good price, get it because the '99 models have a noticable decline in quality from the '98's.

Anyway...the simplest (but not the cheapest) way to get your dad's GLT to the same performance level of a T5 is to have the ECU module upgraded. ipd and several other companies will modify the ECU to the point where your GLT will go from 190 hp to around 230 hp if I remember correctly. I think there's another thread talking about pulling a T5 ECU and swapping it with your GLT ECU.

 

After I'm done with school my plan is to buy a 98 T5, but in the meantime I have my 94 850 Turbo, and then the GLT. I want to chip the GLT and also do exhaust along with an air intake, but it being a smaller turbo, would that put too much stress on it? Or would I be able to put a turbo from a T5 into the GLT?

 

S%$T, for free I would take whatever and be happy with it!!! But, if u get a GLT, then get a chipped ecu and then do the other stuff.... I have a 97GLT and I am going for the ECU.... it's not the same as an R but think: free car plus mods OR 4k for an R plus mods...

 

yeah, that was my thought on it, i really wanted to go straight to the T5 and do the mods, but if my dad's willing to give me his GLT, I'll take it. With a chip, exhaust and air intake, do you think the GLT would be pretty quick? I don't want to mess up the turbo either because I know it's a low pressure turbo.

 

Let me put it this way, I put the accelerator half-way down on either of my parents' cars and it takes forever to get to 40 mph. I put the accelerator half of the way down and I'm off like a shot. I can't wait til I'm able to get the ECU upgrade...

 

which are you referring to?

 

Sorry, MY (awesome :P) car takes off like a shot.

 

oooh, ok, I know what you mean, I've driven it before and it is a pretty quick car. I can't wait until I get it and then do the ecu, etc. It would be interesting to see how it drives then. I wish they made some of the other things for the 99's that they did for the earlier years, reverse intercooler piping kit for example. 93-98 were the best years.

 

They really were. I've seen the design for the new S60 (the S60 is the S70's successor btw), and it looks extremely awesome and promising...but I hate the new engine Volvo is putting in it. It has less hp than my car does.

 

IMO the reverse intercooler system is useless and causes more trouble for the motor.

 

Yeah, I knew that about the S60, which I'm a fan of and one day would like an S60R. Volvo has pretty much used the same engine in all of their cars haven't they? What's this new engine that they're putting in it? I hope they're still sticking to the inline 5.

Tech, what does the reverse pipe do to the engine? Are there even any real gains out of it then or is it more for show?

 

When you install the RIP kit what it does is change the setup from the top of the intercooler going to the motor to the bottom of the intercooler going to the motor.

In time what that does is allow all of the oil that builds up in the bottom of the inercooler to get sucked into the motor.

I still cannot believe it gives alot of gains. I still have not seen for myself where it would give any gains at all. I would have to dyno my car with the OEM setup then install the RIP and dyno it again to see exactly for myself.

Also in early 1994 Volvo put a factory RIP kit on the 850 and only had it on there for about half a year before they saw it caused problems and changed the setup.

 

Yeah, I guess I can see where that would cause problems. I didn't know that they put them on some 850 models. So did they make some changes to the RIP kit now that the newer model cars come stock with them, such as the S60 T5?

Also, if I upgraded the ECU, and then put on a downpipe with exhaust, would the ECU still be good or would I have to get it remapped?

 

I would try to get everything on first then program the ECU or tell them your plans and they might be able to map it that way with minimal affects now.

Im not sure exactly what they changed in the setup to run it on the newer cars.
I know the 02 T5 is not the RIP setup. The outlet for the throttle body comes out of the intercooler on the drivers side half way up the intercooler.

 

They're downgrading from the inline 5 to a 1.6 liter 4-cylinder engine using some new tech called GTDi. GTDi (Gasoline Turbocharged Direct Injection), as the Volvo website describes it, is a high-efficiency engine that has 180 hp. Instead of injecting fuel the conventional way, into the manifold, the fuel is injected directly into the combustion chamber under high pressure. And it's good for the enviroment and other tree hugger crap. :P

 

So, tech, you would probably recommend upgrading the exhaust and the downpipe, and then upgrading the ECU? I guess that would make the most sense. Have there been any major problems with the S60 T5's? I really like them and would highly consider getting one some day down the road.

BlazeS70- A Volvo without an I5. I don't know if I really like the sound of what they're doing. Do you know if that's going to be on all of the new Volvos, or are they going to be doing it over in europe first and then bring it over to the US. But 180 HP, yeah, that isn't a lot at all really, unless they have it where it's all torque or something. When are they going to start putting this engine in their cars?

 

BlazeS70- A Volvo without an I5. I don't know if I really like the sound of what they're doing. Do you know if that's going to be on all of the new Volvos, or are they going to be doing it over in europe first and then bring it over to the US. But 180 HP, yeah, that isn't a lot at all really, unless they have it where it's all torque or something. When are they going to start putting this engine in their cars?[/QUOTE]

Volvo has done away with the inline 5 engine in the V70/XC70 in favor of turbo and non-turbo versions of the inline 6 engine (a V8 is available on the S80 and XC90). The I5 is still alive and well in all of the other models (C30, S40, V50, C70 and S60)....

 

I hope they never get rid of the I5. I know that there's going to be a wave of next gen. models being released in 2010. Hopefully they'll have an inline-5 turbocharged model for the new S60...the T5 or something. Granted the inline-5 is a rare engine, but I'd consider it Volvo's signature engine. The last sentence or two of the summary I read for the GTDi was about being cleaner and stuff like that, so this is probably a byproduct of all the stupid enviroment crap.

And yeah, I'd love to get my hands on a S60 T5 or R after I have to let my S70 bite the dust. I think the lowest I'll allow myself is the 2.5T. I'd check with the S60 forum guys too. Here's the thread I started: https://volvoforums.com/forum/volvo-s60-v60-10/future-26553/

 

The inline 5 cylinder is not rare. In turbo and non-turbo form it has been in just about every vehicle Volvo has manufactured since 1993....