Odd behavior after steering wheel replacement.
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Odd behavior after steering wheel replacement.
I just swapped my airbag wheel for an older non-airbag style on the 240 today. I can't see how that would make a difference, but I'm putting it out there anyway. So I install the wheel and go for a drive. My first acceleration from 1st gear onto a road is a left hand turn. I accelerate normally and it feels almost like my transmission is slipping/shuddering (I had it completely rebuilt 5K miles ago) it wasn't dramatic, but I noticed it. I drove around it didn't do it again until later today.
After it did it the second time I tried to reproduce this shudder. Then I felt it in the steering. I had the car in park and turned the wheel quickly to the right and the wheel visibly shook for about 3 seconds then stopped.
Now I can't decide if it was the transmission I was feeling or the steering. It really felt like the transmission was slipping, but the steering is producing the same feeling.
Anyone have any clues as to what's going on? I can't see it being related to the steering wheel replacement, but stranger things have happened.
After it did it the second time I tried to reproduce this shudder. Then I felt it in the steering. I had the car in park and turned the wheel quickly to the right and the wheel visibly shook for about 3 seconds then stopped.
Now I can't decide if it was the transmission I was feeling or the steering. It really felt like the transmission was slipping, but the steering is producing the same feeling.
Anyone have any clues as to what's going on? I can't see it being related to the steering wheel replacement, but stranger things have happened.
no mo volvo
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its fairly normal for power steering to squeal or shudder when you push the wheel into the stops, thats it saying "THATS AS FAR AS IT GOES!".
you probably should check your power steering and automatic transmission fluid levels. if they are low, all bets are off. low power steering fluid could let air bubbles into the pump and actuator, which would make the PS pretty funky feeling. low ATF would encourage torque converter slipping especially on a turn when its all thrown to one side.
always check the ATF when the car is *thoroughly* warmed up, like after coming back from a 30 minute drive, park on a dead level place, leave the engine idling in neutral, pop the hood and check the ATF stick.... clean off the top of the tube and stick before removing it so dirt doesn't get in there. pull it out, wipe it off with a clean rag, put it all the way back in, wait 5-10 seconds, and pull it out again to check the level, it should be between MIN and MAX on the HOT side.
you probably should check your power steering and automatic transmission fluid levels. if they are low, all bets are off. low power steering fluid could let air bubbles into the pump and actuator, which would make the PS pretty funky feeling. low ATF would encourage torque converter slipping especially on a turn when its all thrown to one side.
always check the ATF when the car is *thoroughly* warmed up, like after coming back from a 30 minute drive, park on a dead level place, leave the engine idling in neutral, pop the hood and check the ATF stick.... clean off the top of the tube and stick before removing it so dirt doesn't get in there. pull it out, wipe it off with a clean rag, put it all the way back in, wait 5-10 seconds, and pull it out again to check the level, it should be between MIN and MAX on the HOT side.
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its fairly normal for power steering to squeal or shudder when you push the wheel into the stops, thats it saying "THATS AS FAR AS IT GOES!".
you probably should check your power steering and automatic transmission fluid levels. if they are low, all bets are off. low power steering fluid could let air bubbles into the pump and actuator, which would make the PS pretty funky feeling. low ATF would encourage torque converter slipping especially on a turn when its all thrown to one side.
always check the ATF when the car is *thoroughly* warmed up, like after coming back from a 30 minute drive, park on a dead level place, leave the engine idling in neutral, pop the hood and check the ATF stick.... clean off the top of the tube and stick before removing it so dirt doesn't get in there. pull it out, wipe it off with a clean rag, put it all the way back in, wait 5-10 seconds, and pull it out again to check the level, it should be between MIN and MAX on the HOT side.
you probably should check your power steering and automatic transmission fluid levels. if they are low, all bets are off. low power steering fluid could let air bubbles into the pump and actuator, which would make the PS pretty funky feeling. low ATF would encourage torque converter slipping especially on a turn when its all thrown to one side.
always check the ATF when the car is *thoroughly* warmed up, like after coming back from a 30 minute drive, park on a dead level place, leave the engine idling in neutral, pop the hood and check the ATF stick.... clean off the top of the tube and stick before removing it so dirt doesn't get in there. pull it out, wipe it off with a clean rag, put it all the way back in, wait 5-10 seconds, and pull it out again to check the level, it should be between MIN and MAX on the HOT side.
Something I didn't mention, the fluid on the PS dipstick had a very small amount of almost microscopic bubbles. They were very few and very small.
no mo volvo
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you might have a leak in your PS plumbing if there's air bubbles in the fluid.
I've also felt shuttering at low speed sharp turns on good pavement with good tires when the steering tie rods were sloppy/worn such that at sharp turn angles, the toe-in was going all over the place. test for this is to jack up the front, both wheels off the ground, and steering wheel locked, grab each front wheel at 3 and 9 oclock and rock them back and forth. if you feel play there thats NOT moving the steering wheel, you got a bad tie rod, either the outer OR the inner rod/ball. I've replaced the inner rod/ball on both our 240 and 740 due to this... the 240 at 400000+ miles was particularlly bad, there was a half inch of slop in the ball.
I've also felt shuttering at low speed sharp turns on good pavement with good tires when the steering tie rods were sloppy/worn such that at sharp turn angles, the toe-in was going all over the place. test for this is to jack up the front, both wheels off the ground, and steering wheel locked, grab each front wheel at 3 and 9 oclock and rock them back and forth. if you feel play there thats NOT moving the steering wheel, you got a bad tie rod, either the outer OR the inner rod/ball. I've replaced the inner rod/ball on both our 240 and 740 due to this... the 240 at 400000+ miles was particularlly bad, there was a half inch of slop in the ball.
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