1995 850 t-5r what's it worth ?
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1995 850 t-5r what's it worth ?
I know this is very subjective but thought I might get some idea of value by asking those that are "in the know" so to speak.
The car: as the post title says, its a genuine T-5r sedan, in yellow, 90K original (documented) miles, 1 owner who (she) was absolutely meticulous about its maintenance--two , one-inch thick folders of everything that was ever done to the car from basic servicing/repairs/warranty work/etc.(90% of which was done at the selling dealer) , all the booklets/owners manuals/sales brochures/magazine articles/window sticker, etc, etc are there. The car has its original floor mats (with the yellow "850" stitching--they look like new), and a set of the Volvo fitted rubber mats/trunk mat. The car's exterior is virtually mint (minor scuffs on the front spoiler, paint checking on the rear wing, roof rain gutter trim shows the common frayed rubber covering, a single marble-sized dent in the hood above the grille) with all original paint, the 5-spoke wheels are correct (even the spare) and other than some curb rash are in great shape. The interior is near perfect--slight drivers seat left bolster wear and otherwise looks like it was never occupied. All electricals work perfectly with exception to the drivers seat tilt (won't tilt backward--probably needs cable reconnected). Mechanically the car is perfect (as stated, it was properly maintained from day one). The engine bay is very clean and the only things I would do to the car before driving it any distance is a partial stage zero (timing belt kit with water pump/PCV system replacement just as preventative maintenance). I know pics are almost essential to truly reflect this cars condition and I will attach Photobucket links when I take the pics. Please give me your thoughts/opinions of the cars value as it stands. Thanks in advance for your help !!
The car: as the post title says, its a genuine T-5r sedan, in yellow, 90K original (documented) miles, 1 owner who (she) was absolutely meticulous about its maintenance--two , one-inch thick folders of everything that was ever done to the car from basic servicing/repairs/warranty work/etc.(90% of which was done at the selling dealer) , all the booklets/owners manuals/sales brochures/magazine articles/window sticker, etc, etc are there. The car has its original floor mats (with the yellow "850" stitching--they look like new), and a set of the Volvo fitted rubber mats/trunk mat. The car's exterior is virtually mint (minor scuffs on the front spoiler, paint checking on the rear wing, roof rain gutter trim shows the common frayed rubber covering, a single marble-sized dent in the hood above the grille) with all original paint, the 5-spoke wheels are correct (even the spare) and other than some curb rash are in great shape. The interior is near perfect--slight drivers seat left bolster wear and otherwise looks like it was never occupied. All electricals work perfectly with exception to the drivers seat tilt (won't tilt backward--probably needs cable reconnected). Mechanically the car is perfect (as stated, it was properly maintained from day one). The engine bay is very clean and the only things I would do to the car before driving it any distance is a partial stage zero (timing belt kit with water pump/PCV system replacement just as preventative maintenance). I know pics are almost essential to truly reflect this cars condition and I will attach Photobucket links when I take the pics. Please give me your thoughts/opinions of the cars value as it stands. Thanks in advance for your help !!
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Hi555, I like to think that this is my specialty. First let me say that the highest yellow sedan sale that I know of this year (or maybe last) was $10,500. Then the car went to the dealer for about $3,500 in maintenance / repairs. That was to much. Another car that had less than 30,000 miles on it sold for about $9,000 that was in NEW CONDITION. Lets use that one for the TOP VALVE BASE.
So, knowing that one in new condition sold for $9,000, use that number and work off the stuff that truly NEEDS to be done to the car. PCV, small dent, some off for more miles but 1/2 what is should have, curb rash and roof rail trim. So, you're looking at about $2,300. My opinion is that the car should sell between $7,000 and $8,000 at a dealer. With those records and docks, man, that awesome. It sounds like it's in the top 5% for stock condition.
On the down side, due to the mileage it likely has NOT gotten new suspension (struts, spring seats, etc.). Also, the car is still old original, stuff will break easily. That's just the down side of owning an old classic car. The only way to avoid that type of age wear is to keep the car in a temperature controlled enviorment.
I'm not one that believes that you should change a timing belt and water pump on a car that has 20,000 miles on it (the belt) just because you are buying it. That's your call. Not a horrible idea but the water pump may be in perfect condition if the coolant has been refreshed every few years, it may last 250,000 miles. Also, most 18 year old cars do need spark plug wires and plugs, I don't think that warrants you knocking the price down.
I believe there are still between 90 and 100 of those cars on the road here in the US. Nice find but not worth $12,000.
So, knowing that one in new condition sold for $9,000, use that number and work off the stuff that truly NEEDS to be done to the car. PCV, small dent, some off for more miles but 1/2 what is should have, curb rash and roof rail trim. So, you're looking at about $2,300. My opinion is that the car should sell between $7,000 and $8,000 at a dealer. With those records and docks, man, that awesome. It sounds like it's in the top 5% for stock condition.
On the down side, due to the mileage it likely has NOT gotten new suspension (struts, spring seats, etc.). Also, the car is still old original, stuff will break easily. That's just the down side of owning an old classic car. The only way to avoid that type of age wear is to keep the car in a temperature controlled enviorment.
I'm not one that believes that you should change a timing belt and water pump on a car that has 20,000 miles on it (the belt) just because you are buying it. That's your call. Not a horrible idea but the water pump may be in perfect condition if the coolant has been refreshed every few years, it may last 250,000 miles. Also, most 18 year old cars do need spark plug wires and plugs, I don't think that warrants you knocking the price down.
I believe there are still between 90 and 100 of those cars on the road here in the US. Nice find but not worth $12,000.
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at least the civic is still worth that price now but for a 1995 volvo with that mileage l wouldnt pay that much.who knows the kind of problems the person buying it will face. 1995 volvo would need of things replaced and you know that brother. l dont like civics myself but to pay 7500 for 1995 t5-r because of IN quote "RARITY" is a NO for me. l was lucky to own a 1997 850R and had to replace alot of things because, you know parts gets weaker as it ages.also volvo parts are not cheap.
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Good useful info--thanks for that ! You're probably correct in that most of the parts are still original (I'll have to wade through all those records to be sure) and will eventually need to be replaced. I thought the timing kit was prudent to do because it was last changed @ 54K miles in 2006--doesn't Volvo recommend a "time or mileage" change period for the timing belt ? and if it did fail--well, you know the cost of that. The PCV system is original and I figured changing it may just prevent pressure-related oil leaks from starting if it inevitably gets clogged. All other stuff I'll do as problems occurr--I agree that changing stuff just for the sake of making it new isn't necessary ("if it ain't broke don't fix it" kind of thing). The car is in such nice condition and I got it for such a great price (your estimated 7-8K value made me feel real good about what I paid for it !!!) that I don't mind throwing some cash at it--I think it deserves to be given at least the same level of care it has seen all of its life.
Again, many thanks for your input and I think I'll be PM'ing you for more insights as things progress with this great car.
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Good useful info--thanks for that ! You're probably correct in that most of the parts are still original (I'll have to wade through all those records to be sure) and will eventually need to be replaced. I thought the timing kit was prudent to do because it was last changed @ 54K miles in 2006--doesn't Volvo recommend a "time or mileage" change period for the timing belt ? and if it did fail--well, you know the cost of that. The PCV system is original and I figured changing it may just prevent pressure-related oil leaks from starting if it inevitably gets clogged. All other stuff I'll do as problems occurr--I agree that changing stuff just for the sake of making it new isn't necessary ("if it ain't broke don't fix it" kind of thing). The car is in such nice condition and I got it for such a great price (your estimated 7-8K value made me feel real good about what I paid for it !!!) that I don't mind throwing some cash at it--I think it deserves to be given at least the same level of care it has seen all of its life.
Again, many thanks for your input and I think I'll be PM'ing you for more insights as things progress with this great car.
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I sold one last year that was pretty clean. It did not have the R front lip, the interior was in excellent shape but did not have the original mats and a small patched hole in the bolster (really could not notice it). I'd call it a strong 4 out of 5. The exterior was a 3 of 5. No dents but it did have a door that had a different color yellow (I guess it was painted at one point). The clear coat was thin and it had Volans instead of titans. Nice clean car with no records but a lot of my care. I did have the compressor replaced and I replaced the Evaporator as part of the sale for $5,900. Here is a album of it.
850 T-5R
Here is the thing about Volvo's. If they are not over heated (left in the sun) or frozen to death (left out in the cold), they won't fall apart. My wagon has 220,000 miles on it and I really have not had to do much to it. Yes it's always something small with a car with over 200,000 on it but you are 100,000 away from that. I picked up my yellow sedan for $3,800. Cleaned it up, took care of a few things and sold it a couple of years later because I got my wagon. The motor was strong, the interior was very nice, the car drove very well but I did get it from NY and it appeared that the last few years before I got it, it had sat outside. So I had to clean up the paint and wheels. I dumped the wheels because the wagon needed them and I picked up the Volans with newish tires on them for free. Didn't want to go through the hassle of swapping the tires on to the Titans. I was 900 miles from home in Albuquerque when a lady seen it and had to have it. Do I believe that she's better off having that old Volvo than a '06 Honda Civic, yes and no. It would be better for someone that knows how to DIY than for someone that has to shop all the work and upkeep. However, 3 years from now that yellow sedan will still be worth what she paid for it unless she wrecks it and the honda will be worth less. The Honda will need timing belts, struts, tires, etc., just like any other car. My sister has an '06 Accord and a few weeks ago she put over $120 into a serpentine belt and oil change. Since she has had the car it has had a few tires, brake lines and something else that totaled about $700. Not real bad but most cars over 8 years old needs stuff all the time.
When I purchased my yellow sedan, it had the original timing belt on it. It was 13 years old and had 78,000 miles on it. So, would I change that belt now, maybe not. I would likely wait till it has 10 years or 70,000 miles on it, unless I started hearing noise from the rollers. I say yes on the PCV system, as explained above. If the car hasn't been beaten in any way, struts and stuff like that may not go bad any time soon.
If you got it for less than $7,000 I'd say you got a decent deal, if you got it for less than $6,000 I'd say you got a good deal, under $5,000 and you stole it. Have fun and take care of it.
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Here is the thing about Volvo's. If they are not over heated (left in the sun) or frozen to death (left out in the cold), they won't fall apart. My wagon has 220,000 miles on it and I really have not had to do much to it. Yes it's always something small with a car with over 200,000 on it but you are 100,000 away from that. I picked up my yellow sedan for $3,800. Cleaned it up, took care of a few things and sold it a couple of years later because I got my wagon. The motor was strong, the interior was very nice, the car drove very well but I did get it from NY and it appeared that the last few years before I got it, it had sat outside. So I had to clean up the paint and wheels. I dumped the wheels because the wagon needed them and I picked up the Volans with newish tires on them for free. Didn't want to go through the hassle of swapping the tires on to the Titans. I was 900 miles from home in Albuquerque when a lady seen it and had to have it. Do I believe that she's better off having that old Volvo than a '06 Honda Civic, yes and no. It would be better for someone that knows how to DIY than for someone that has to shop all the work and upkeep. However, 3 years from now that yellow sedan will still be worth what she paid for it unless she wrecks it and the honda will be worth less. The Honda will need timing belts, struts, tires, etc., just like any other car. My sister has an '06 Accord and a few weeks ago she put over $120 into a serpentine belt and oil change. Since she has had the car it has had a few tires, brake lines and something else that totaled about $700. Not real bad but most cars over 8 years old needs stuff all the time.
When I purchased my yellow sedan, it had the original timing belt on it. It was 13 years old and had 78,000 miles on it. So, would I change that belt now, maybe not. I would likely wait till it has 10 years or 70,000 miles on it, unless I started hearing noise from the rollers. I say yes on the PCV system, as explained above. If the car hasn't been beaten in any way, struts and stuff like that may not go bad any time soon.
If you got it for less than $7,000 I'd say you got a decent deal, if you got it for less than $6,000 I'd say you got a good deal, under $5,000 and you stole it. Have fun and take care of it.
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I sold one last year that was pretty clean. It did not have the R front lip, the interior was in excellent shape but did not have the original mats and a small patched hole in the bolster (really could not notice it). I'd call it a strong 4 out of 5. The exterior was a 3 of 5. No dents but it did have a door that had a different color yellow (I guess it was painted at one point). The clear coat was thin and it had Volans instead of titans. Nice clean car with no records but a lot of my care. I did have the compressor replaced and I replaced the Evaporator as part of the sale for $5,900. Here is a album of it.
850 T-5R
Here is the thing about Volvo's. If they are not over heated (left in the sun) or frozen to death (left out in the cold), they won't fall apart. My wagon has 220,000 miles on it and I really have not had to do much to it. Yes it's always something small with a car with over 200,000 on it but you are 100,000 away from that. I picked up my yellow sedan for $3,800. Cleaned it up, took care of a few things and sold it a couple of years later because I got my wagon. The motor was strong, the interior was very nice, the car drove very well but I did get it from NY and it appeared that the last few years before I got it, it had sat outside. So I had to clean up the paint and wheels. I dumped the wheels because the wagon needed them and I picked up the Volans with newish tires on them for free. Didn't want to go through the hassle of swapping the tires on to the Titans. I was 900 miles from home in Albuquerque when a lady seen it and had to have it. Do I believe that she's better off having that old Volvo than a '06 Honda Civic, yes and no. It would be better for someone that knows how to DIY than for someone that has to shop all the work and upkeep. However, 3 years from now that yellow sedan will still be worth what she paid for it unless she wrecks it and the honda will be worth less. The Honda will need timing belts, struts, tires, etc., just like any other car. My sister has an '06 Accord and a few weeks ago she put over $120 into a serpentine belt and oil change. Since she has had the car it has had a few tires, brake lines and something else that totaled about $700. Not real bad but most cars over 8 years old needs stuff all the time.
When I purchased my yellow sedan, it had the original timing belt on it. It was 13 years old and had 78,000 miles on it. So, would I change that belt now, maybe not. I would likely wait till it has 10 years or 70,000 miles on it, unless I started hearing noise from the rollers. I say yes on the PCV system, as explained above. If the car hasn't been beaten in any way, struts and stuff like that may not go bad any time soon.
If you got it for less than $7,000 I'd say you got a decent deal, if you got it for less than $6,000 I'd say you got a good deal, under $5,000 and you stole it. Have fun and take care of it.
850 T-5R
Here is the thing about Volvo's. If they are not over heated (left in the sun) or frozen to death (left out in the cold), they won't fall apart. My wagon has 220,000 miles on it and I really have not had to do much to it. Yes it's always something small with a car with over 200,000 on it but you are 100,000 away from that. I picked up my yellow sedan for $3,800. Cleaned it up, took care of a few things and sold it a couple of years later because I got my wagon. The motor was strong, the interior was very nice, the car drove very well but I did get it from NY and it appeared that the last few years before I got it, it had sat outside. So I had to clean up the paint and wheels. I dumped the wheels because the wagon needed them and I picked up the Volans with newish tires on them for free. Didn't want to go through the hassle of swapping the tires on to the Titans. I was 900 miles from home in Albuquerque when a lady seen it and had to have it. Do I believe that she's better off having that old Volvo than a '06 Honda Civic, yes and no. It would be better for someone that knows how to DIY than for someone that has to shop all the work and upkeep. However, 3 years from now that yellow sedan will still be worth what she paid for it unless she wrecks it and the honda will be worth less. The Honda will need timing belts, struts, tires, etc., just like any other car. My sister has an '06 Accord and a few weeks ago she put over $120 into a serpentine belt and oil change. Since she has had the car it has had a few tires, brake lines and something else that totaled about $700. Not real bad but most cars over 8 years old needs stuff all the time.
When I purchased my yellow sedan, it had the original timing belt on it. It was 13 years old and had 78,000 miles on it. So, would I change that belt now, maybe not. I would likely wait till it has 10 years or 70,000 miles on it, unless I started hearing noise from the rollers. I say yes on the PCV system, as explained above. If the car hasn't been beaten in any way, struts and stuff like that may not go bad any time soon.
If you got it for less than $7,000 I'd say you got a decent deal, if you got it for less than $6,000 I'd say you got a good deal, under $5,000 and you stole it. Have fun and take care of it.
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More great stuff, all of it makes a lot of sense--really like the album--that T-5r looked good !!--I plan on documenting everything I do with mine with pics as well. I may take your advice on the timing belt if I can get over the paranoia of trusting it--think I'll pull the cover and take a good look at the belt and if it looks good (no cracks/frays/etc) I'll let it be for now. PCV will be done soon. Based on my conversations and meeting with the original owner (now in her 60's) I am positive the car was never ever abused--she had a name for it ("Sven") and it was garaged for 90% of its life--she was a big Volvo fan with a 740 intercooled turbo before the T-5r and several 240's before that. I picked up 2 near perfect condition Pegasus wheels with 50% worn P-Zero nero tires today for $ 130.00 (gotta find 2 more now !) so when I get a full set I'll restore the Titans back to original condition. I plan on putting this car back to as close to showroom condition as possible then maybe (a big maybe) do a manual trans swap, intake/exhaust/tune at some point. Not looking for a hot rod/muscle car (I have a 525 RWHP '04 Cobra that meets those needs) but would like a little more punch just for fun. I have a habit of getting cars to the point where I want them, get bored and start another project--I hope I keep this one for a while--its really growing on me and I have a soft spot for Volvos anyway. Based on your figures, I guess you could say I got a VERY good deal (came pretty close to stealing it !!) on this car.
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It was sweet but I needed a wagon. Believe it or not the wagons are worth even more. I stole my wagon and did clean it up as well. I don't have much to do on it but I think my valve steem seals are going bad. Likely because the PO used after market oil filters. I'll do them and change the cams so that it's quicker off the line. I believe it will also gain about 15 hp.
I have a list of things that I have done to it but I don't think I have put anything other than a timing belt into it this year. Wait, I put plugs in and a used o2 sensor but in parts, less than $200. Not bad for a car with over 200,000 miles on it. Heck, I've put over 25,000 miles on it in the past 12 months. Here are the pics for it. I wasn't finished with the clean up but some of it was done.
1995 Volvo 850 T-5R, Black Wagon
I've actually felt bad for you with the issues you've had with yours. I'm not sure why you have so many things go wrong but hey, it's 15 years old, most cars don't see that kind of age. I know you have learned a lot messing with it. I've been tinkering with my cars for years, heck I'm 48 years old and actually put over 400,000 miles on one car before. I know these 850's can do 500,000 easy, if you can afford to keep them up with suspension stuff, etc.
I have a list of things that I have done to it but I don't think I have put anything other than a timing belt into it this year. Wait, I put plugs in and a used o2 sensor but in parts, less than $200. Not bad for a car with over 200,000 miles on it. Heck, I've put over 25,000 miles on it in the past 12 months. Here are the pics for it. I wasn't finished with the clean up but some of it was done.
1995 Volvo 850 T-5R, Black Wagon
I've actually felt bad for you with the issues you've had with yours. I'm not sure why you have so many things go wrong but hey, it's 15 years old, most cars don't see that kind of age. I know you have learned a lot messing with it. I've been tinkering with my cars for years, heck I'm 48 years old and actually put over 400,000 miles on one car before. I know these 850's can do 500,000 easy, if you can afford to keep them up with suspension stuff, etc.
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It was sweet but I needed a wagon. Believe it or not the wagons are worth even more. I stole my wagon and did clean it up as well. I don't have much to do on it but I think my valve steem seals are going bad. Likely because the PO used after market oil filters. I'll do them and change the cams so that it's quicker off the line. I believe it will also gain about 15 hp.
I have a list of things that I have done to it but I don't think I have put anything other than a timing belt into it this year. Wait, I put plugs in and a used o2 sensor but in parts, less than $200. Not bad for a car with over 200,000 miles on it. Heck, I've put over 25,000 miles on it in the past 12 months. Here are the pics for it. I wasn't finished with the clean up but some of it was done.
1995 Volvo 850 T-5R, Black Wagon
I've actually felt bad for you with the issues you've had with yours. I'm not sure why you have so many things go wrong but hey, it's 15 years old, most cars don't see that kind of age. I know you have learned a lot messing with it. I've been tinkering with my cars for years, heck I'm 48 years old and actually put over 400,000 miles on one car before. I know these 850's can do 500,000 easy, if you can afford to keep them up with suspension stuff, etc.
I have a list of things that I have done to it but I don't think I have put anything other than a timing belt into it this year. Wait, I put plugs in and a used o2 sensor but in parts, less than $200. Not bad for a car with over 200,000 miles on it. Heck, I've put over 25,000 miles on it in the past 12 months. Here are the pics for it. I wasn't finished with the clean up but some of it was done.
1995 Volvo 850 T-5R, Black Wagon
I've actually felt bad for you with the issues you've had with yours. I'm not sure why you have so many things go wrong but hey, it's 15 years old, most cars don't see that kind of age. I know you have learned a lot messing with it. I've been tinkering with my cars for years, heck I'm 48 years old and actually put over 400,000 miles on one car before. I know these 850's can do 500,000 easy, if you can afford to keep them up with suspension stuff, etc.
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Very very cool wagon !!!--I would love to find one of those as well or a newer 6-speed V70R--love the wagons more than the sedans--more practical and rare. I had a really nice '96 Platinum wagon I sold earlier this summer-loved that car but wanted another Mustang project so I sold it and later picked up a mint low mileage (84K) one-owner '99 V70XC to replace its "dog hauling" duties--nice to have the AWD in the NC mountains in the winter ! I don't think I'll ever be without a Volvo wagon--they are just too useful and look damn good (in my opinion) as well.
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Very very cool wagon !!!--I would love to find one of those as well or a newer 6-speed V70R--love the wagons more than the sedans--more practical and rare. I had a really nice '96 Platinum wagon I sold earlier this summer-loved that car but wanted another Mustang project so I sold it and later picked up a mint low mileage (84K) one-owner '99 V70XC to replace its "dog hauling" duties--nice to have the AWD in the NC mountains in the winter ! I don't think I'll ever be without a Volvo wagon--they are just too useful and look damn good (in my opinion) as well.
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The PO of the wagon was a fire chief. I'm sure it seen a lot of boost but he kept the oil changed old school, every 3,000 miles so the block is very strong, very high compression numbers for the miles. I switched to full synthetic and did do the PCV, which was likely original. Yikes!!!
The PO was about 66 when he let the car go, likely a heavy guy due to the wear on the seats. I passed on a '96 R wagon set of seats because I like to keep the car original. I hope to install a set of head lights, HD's and have the seats recovered. Other than that I'll just keep my eyes out for a tail wing. I did replace the after market stereo with a OEM unit with a CD player, not that I listen to CD's. I stole this wagon, the PO sold the car to someone that never drove it. My guess is that he got rid of the car in a work trade because it had a bad tranny. He had the car for about 8 years so he had enough. The car was very dirty but ran well. Anyway, I got such a good price that I had to high tail it out of town before I got arrested.
Catch you guys later. I have a day ahead of me with my daughter's S70. Now that car has had a lot of work and tomorrow I hope to put CV boots on it. Ouch!!!
The PO was about 66 when he let the car go, likely a heavy guy due to the wear on the seats. I passed on a '96 R wagon set of seats because I like to keep the car original. I hope to install a set of head lights, HD's and have the seats recovered. Other than that I'll just keep my eyes out for a tail wing. I did replace the after market stereo with a OEM unit with a CD player, not that I listen to CD's. I stole this wagon, the PO sold the car to someone that never drove it. My guess is that he got rid of the car in a work trade because it had a bad tranny. He had the car for about 8 years so he had enough. The car was very dirty but ran well. Anyway, I got such a good price that I had to high tail it out of town before I got arrested.
Catch you guys later. I have a day ahead of me with my daughter's S70. Now that car has had a lot of work and tomorrow I hope to put CV boots on it. Ouch!!!
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Oh, I'd like to get my hands on a Platinum 850. That would be sweet. There is a sedan for sale close by. The guy wants $3,000 and it has a chip so I know it's been driven hard. I'll be patient and keep looking.
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Your wagon looks amazingly good given its mileage and history--sounds like you had to do quite a bit of restoration--can't believe the PCV system was original--scary !!! Good luck with those CV boots--no fun there. I'll keep an eye out for a rear wing as well. SlimFlex, I'll try and get some pics up in the next couple of days--got lots going on right now so time is at a premium.
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Question about pricing; does anyone have suggestions on which website to use when checking the 'retail' and 'private' pricing for cars? I checked a '96 R yesterday at KBB and Edmunds.
KBB:
Private Sale: $4,224 - Retail: $5,849
Edmunds:
Private Sale: $1,944 - Retail: $2,936
I'm guessing anyone selling would use the KBB numbers and anyone buying woulud use the Edmunds! Just wondering if anyone has done any 'real world' comparisons with their own history.
KBB:
Private Sale: $4,224 - Retail: $5,849
Edmunds:
Private Sale: $1,944 - Retail: $2,936
I'm guessing anyone selling would use the KBB numbers and anyone buying woulud use the Edmunds! Just wondering if anyone has done any 'real world' comparisons with their own history.
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