Help with testing Cam Sensor ?
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Help with testing Cam Sensor ?
Hi .. New to the forum , been trolling for days .. Massive help this place is .. decided I should join lol
Anyways .. I have a no spark issue on my 95 850 non -turbo
after searching (this forum) Ive come to the conclusion that is probably the cam position sensor or the crank sensor
after reading and read .. I honestly do not have a single clue as to how to test it .. I have a volt meter but the directions Ive read from here and other sites vary in method and are not writtin very clear
So I was hoping someone could link me to maybe a video or a detailed step by step (WITH PICS) or something
thanks - Leah
Anyways .. I have a no spark issue on my 95 850 non -turbo
after searching (this forum) Ive come to the conclusion that is probably the cam position sensor or the crank sensor
after reading and read .. I honestly do not have a single clue as to how to test it .. I have a volt meter but the directions Ive read from here and other sites vary in method and are not writtin very clear
So I was hoping someone could link me to maybe a video or a detailed step by step (WITH PICS) or something
thanks - Leah
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Awesome .. thanks you .. I got to step 3 of the procedure (Posted below )
and it seems My volts jumped all over the place when grounding and checking terminal NO.1 of the coil .. it never went to .7-1.3 it just dropped from 11.90 volts down to 0.03 volts slowly after engaging the starter
dose this mean coil ? or keep going down the list ?
also I wasnt able to get the car to throw any codes ??
and lastly If I check resistance on just the col (via youtube video) I get 01.5 on the red+ and blue- terminals... yet I get 0.00 on positive to coil output (center pole where the main wire goes to the distributor)
and it seems My volts jumped all over the place when grounding and checking terminal NO.1 of the coil .. it never went to .7-1.3 it just dropped from 11.90 volts down to 0.03 volts slowly after engaging the starter
dose this mean coil ? or keep going down the list ?
also I wasnt able to get the car to throw any codes ??
and lastly If I check resistance on just the col (via youtube video) I get 01.5 on the red+ and blue- terminals... yet I get 0.00 on positive to coil output (center pole where the main wire goes to the distributor)
Code:
BOSCH EZ129K 1) Disconnect coil wire from distributor cap. Put coil wire next to ground and operate starter motor. If spark is present, check distributor rotor and cap. If spark is not present, go to next step. 2) Connect voltmeter between ignition coil connector terminal No. 15 (Red wire) and ground. Turn ignition on. If battery voltage is not present, check voltage supply to ignition coil. If battery voltage is present, turn ignition off and go to next step. 3) Connect voltmeter between ignition coil terminal No. 1 (Blue wire) and ground. Operate starter motor. If about .7-1.3 volts are present, repeat test using new ignition coil. If about .7-1.3 volts are not present, turn ignition off and go to next step. 4) Disconnect engine speed sensor connector located close to flywheel. Connect an ohmmeter between sensor terminals. If resistance is about 200-400 ohms, go to next step and check Camshaft Position Sensor (CMP) signal. If resistance is not about 200-400 ohms, replace sensor. NOTE: Engine speed sensor is also known as Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS) or impulse sensor. 5) Remove intake hose. Bend aside rubber sleeve on CMP connector. Connect voltmeter between connector terminal No. 2 and ground. See Fig. 4. Operate starter motor. If voltage reading varies between 0-5 volts, go to step 7). If voltage reading does not vary between 0-5 volts, go to next step. Fig. 4: Identifying Camshaft Position Sensor (CMP) Terminals Courtesy of Volvo Cars of North America. 6) Connect voltmeter between CMP connector terminal No. 3 and ground. Turn ignition on. About 10 volts should be present. Turn ignition off. Connect an ohmmeter between CMP connector terminal No. 1 and ground. Ohmmeter should show about zero ohms. If voltage supply and ground are okay, repeat test using new CMP. If voltage supply and ground are not okay, reconnect intake hose and go to step 9). 7) If voltage reading varied between 0-5 volts in step 5), disconnect power stage connector at ignition coil. Bend back rubber sleeve on connector. Check ground supply by connecting ohmmeter between connector terminal No. 1 and ground. See Fig. 5. Ohmmeter should indicate zero ohms. Check voltage supply by connecting voltmeter between terminal No. 3 and ground. Turn ignition on. Battery voltage should be present. Fig. 5: Identifying Power Stage Connector Terminals Courtesy of Volvo Cars of North America. 8) Check power stage control signal by connecting voltmeter between terminal No. 4 and ground. Operate starter motor. Voltmeter should indicate .7-1.3 volts. If ground, voltage and control signal are okay, repeat test using new power stage. If ground connection and voltage are faulty, check wiring. If control signal is not present, go to next step and check ECU input and output signals. 9) Connect Breakout Box (981 3190) and Adapter (981 3195) to distributor ignition ECU. See Fig. 3. Turn ignition switch to OFF position. Distributor ignition ECU is located in right side of engine compartment. Remove ECU cover. Disconnect distributor ignition ECU connector. Visually inspect all terminal connector sleeves to ensure no terminals are damaged. 10) To install breakout box, remove distributor ignition ECU. Press adapter onto distributor ignition ECU and pull lead upward through slot beside module. Press distributor ignition ECU, with adapter connected, into connector in bottom of ECU box. Connect breakout box to adapter 60-pin connector. 11) Ensure ignition is off. To check ECU input and output signals, connect ohmmeter between breakout box terminal No. 20 and ground, then between breakout box terminal No. 29 and ground. Ohmmeter should indicate about zero ohms in both cases. 12) Ensure ignition is off. Connect ohmmeter between breakout box terminals No. 20 and 2, and between breakout box terminals No. 20 and 15. Ohmmeter should indicate about zero ohms in both cases. 13) Ensure ignition is off. Connect voltmeter between breakout box terminals No. 20 and 10. Battery voltage should be present. Turn ignition on. Connect voltmeter between breakout box terminals No. 20 and 30. Battery voltage should be present. 14) Check engine speed sensor signal by connecting voltmeter between breakout box terminals No. 1 and 2. Operate starter motor. Voltmeter should indicate 300-400 millivolts. If signal is not present, check sensor. See Code 1-3-1 diagnosis procedures in the G - TESTS W/CODES article. If signal is present, go to next step and check Camshaft Position Sensor (CMP) signal. NOTE: Engine speed sensor is also known as Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS) or impulse sensor. 15) Connect voltmeter between breakout box terminals No. 20 and 4. Operate starter motor. Voltage should vary between 0-5 volts. If voltage is okay, go to next step. If voltage is not okay, connect voltmeter between breakout box terminals No. 20 and 14. Voltmeter should indicate about 10 volts. If voltage is present, but signal is not present, repeat test using new CMP. If voltage is not present, repeat test using new ECU. 16) If voltage was okay in step 15), connect voltmeter between breakout box terminals No. 20 and 43. Operate starter motor. Voltage should indicate about 5-7 volts. If voltage is not present, repeat test using ECU. If voltage is present, ignition system is operating properly.
Last edited by Hypnopirate; 07-03-2012 at 04:16 PM.
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Hopefully, someone will chime in. As for me. Give me a couple-few hours. I just got back home and I have to run to the grocery store, and take care of a couple of things. Don't worry, you're not abandoned. I'd give you more guidance now, but I didn't even have the time to read your entire post, to see where you are really at. Take a breath have a beer and if someone doesn't chime in, I'll talk you through it.
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I got to step 3 of the procedure (Posted below )
and it seems My volts jumped all over the place when grounding and checking terminal NO.1 of the coil .. it never went to .7-1.3 it just dropped from 11.90 volts down to 0.03 volts slowly after engaging the starter
dose this mean coil ? or keep going down the list ?
also I wasnt able to get the car to throw any codes ??
and lastly If I check resistance on just the col (via youtube video) I get 01.5 on the red+ and blue- terminals... yet I get 0.00 on positive to coil output (center pole where the main wire goes to the distributor)
and it seems My volts jumped all over the place when grounding and checking terminal NO.1 of the coil .. it never went to .7-1.3 it just dropped from 11.90 volts down to 0.03 volts slowly after engaging the starter
dose this mean coil ? or keep going down the list ?
also I wasnt able to get the car to throw any codes ??
and lastly If I check resistance on just the col (via youtube video) I get 01.5 on the red+ and blue- terminals... yet I get 0.00 on positive to coil output (center pole where the main wire goes to the distributor)
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