Variable Intermittent Wiper Mod
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Variable Intermittent Wiper Mod
Posted this on VS last month; not too much interest, but maybe someone here could find this useful.. FYI.
One thing that's really missing on the 850 and '98 S/V70 cars IMO is a variable intermittent wiper control! Yeah I know, you can get a wiper relay from ipd and others where you can change the intermittent interval time but the UI is terrible; it's a PITA to change the intermittent time interval; you gotta get all jiggy with wiper switch to modify the time. Link for ipd relay Volvo Adjustable Delay Intermittent Wiper Relay IPD 103226 9140663 3515279 3523609 5531
Most modern cars just have a **** at the end of the wiper stalk that you twist to get different time intervals. Very nice and easy to change interval times. I don't know about you guys but where i drive the rain/mist rate does not stay constant during my drive; and of course it changes with your speed too. So (barring rain sensors automatically controlling your wipers..) the **** is a very nice UI.
So I dug into our wiper relays and did some reverse engineering. There's a RC network that controls the time interval and it's locked down to a 6 second interval. Actually I did more experimentation than engineering; I can get into more details if anyone is interested but suffice it to say I did figure out a nice mod to add variable intermittent wipers to our cars.
Caveats:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8cvhfgho6...bmYqoI-ia?dl=0
Oh yeah; getting the back off of the wiper switch can be a biaaaaatch; the bone tool and/or a thin dull blade screwdriver works well. Just go slow and heat may help too. I can draw up a simple schematic if that would help.
NOTES:
Most other systems that I looked at use much lower resistance value pots than this circuit; makes sense as this would give you better noise immunity (though I haven't run into any issues so far). Inside the wiper relay assembly is an atmel U2640B chip which is the logic chip. It's a dedicated automotive wiper control. There's a comparable chip Temic U846B that I discovered out there which is more configurable than the U2640, but the only source for it I could find was alibaba so who knows what the quality is like.. it had different pin-outs too. If you're going to go to that much bother you may as well create your own PLD..
One thing that's really missing on the 850 and '98 S/V70 cars IMO is a variable intermittent wiper control! Yeah I know, you can get a wiper relay from ipd and others where you can change the intermittent interval time but the UI is terrible; it's a PITA to change the intermittent time interval; you gotta get all jiggy with wiper switch to modify the time. Link for ipd relay Volvo Adjustable Delay Intermittent Wiper Relay IPD 103226 9140663 3515279 3523609 5531
Most modern cars just have a **** at the end of the wiper stalk that you twist to get different time intervals. Very nice and easy to change interval times. I don't know about you guys but where i drive the rain/mist rate does not stay constant during my drive; and of course it changes with your speed too. So (barring rain sensors automatically controlling your wipers..) the **** is a very nice UI.
So I dug into our wiper relays and did some reverse engineering. There's a RC network that controls the time interval and it's locked down to a 6 second interval. Actually I did more experimentation than engineering; I can get into more details if anyone is interested but suffice it to say I did figure out a nice mod to add variable intermittent wipers to our cars.
Caveats:
- This mod will only allow you to vary the time interval between 4 and 16 to 17 seconds. I wanted to make it longer than that but that would require more extensive mods to the wiper relay.
- The mod is not plug and play. This was disappointing to discover. I calculated the max resistance necessary to be around 700K ohms IIRC from the U2640B data sheet (link inside below link) but on my 855 it actually came out to 370K. And on my wife's S70 it came out about 520K. I.e. you will have to tune each installation a bit.
- Couple more items... when in delay mode above about 10s or so the wipers will park a bit higher than normal. Not a big deal; if you go from intermittent delay mode to off, just do a single wipe and they'll return to the normal park position.
- If in the max delay intermittent mode and you pull the stalk toward you to wash the windshield, the time that the wipers run after the wash will be extended. If this becomes an issue for you just turn the pot **** to the shorter time position and will return to normal operation.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8cvhfgho6...bmYqoI-ia?dl=0
Oh yeah; getting the back off of the wiper switch can be a biaaaaatch; the bone tool and/or a thin dull blade screwdriver works well. Just go slow and heat may help too. I can draw up a simple schematic if that would help.
NOTES:
Most other systems that I looked at use much lower resistance value pots than this circuit; makes sense as this would give you better noise immunity (though I haven't run into any issues so far). Inside the wiper relay assembly is an atmel U2640B chip which is the logic chip. It's a dedicated automotive wiper control. There's a comparable chip Temic U846B that I discovered out there which is more configurable than the U2640, but the only source for it I could find was alibaba so who knows what the quality is like.. it had different pin-outs too. If you're going to go to that much bother you may as well create your own PLD..
Last edited by gdog; 01-08-2016 at 10:10 PM.
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