My mom's 98 V70 XC was totaled the other week when she got rear ended by some idiot in an SUV, she's alright. My parents just signed the papers on a new 06 XC70 which they are very excited about, especially for the tranny improvements over the 98. Anyways they were wondering if I wanted any parts from the now wrecked car assuming that it would be easy to grab or swap (That means no engine for me), so I was thinking the wheels might be a good choice. The wheels I've got on my 850 right now are the 24 spoke argo wheels which while they look for the most part are a little banged up thanks to the previous owner, one is bent, and they are a pain to clean. Her car had a nice set of 6 spoke wheels (forget the name). Everything I've seen so far has said simple swap, and since I can't afford for it not to be (10 hour drive one way) I figured I would run it past my fellow 850 owners.

 

I'm sure the bolt pattern is 5x108mm. But the issue is the offset. You may or may not need spacers.

 

Stamped on the backside of OEM wheels, you should find 5x108x43 - 5 bolt, 108mm bolt pattern, and 43mm offset.

 

Alright I'll have to check the offsets. Since access to the totaled vehicle isn't exactly easy is there any way to check the offsets on it without removing the wheel?

 

Do the wheels on your Mom's wrecked 1998 V70 XC look like...

these 15x6.5 6 Spoke 91925180/9173713 SILVER ANTLIA

http://www.wheelcollision.com/wccpix/70204.jpg

these 15x6.5 6 Spoke Open Lugs 9191264 SILVER NAIAD

http://www.wheelcollision.com/wccpix/70207.jpg

these 16x6.5 Grooved 5 Spoke 9475284 SOLAR - ANTHRACITE

http://www.wheelcollision.com/wccpix/0wcc758.JPG

or another wheel??

All of the wheels pictured are 5x108x43 and will fit your 1994 850.
Photos courtesy of http://www.wheelcollision.com/volvo.htm

 

Thanks!

She has the Silver Naiad wheels.

Only challenge left is getting them from the wrecker.

 

Ok I lied... The one guy at the wrecker said no problem and that he would have to check with the owner to be sure, but I just realized something, the tire sizes are different. My 850 has 195/60 R15 tires while hers has 205/65 R15. Will I have to swap the tires too or can my 850 handle her size tires, and when those wear out can I put the recommended size for my car (195/60 R15) back on the new rims, my guess would be yes, but last thing I need is a headache when it's time to replace them.

Edit: Nevermind I'm an idiot, they're cool...

 

Be careful with the new tires. The rolling diameter of the new tire is larger by over 5.03%. Thus at 60 mph (actual) your speedometer will read 57mph. At higher speeds, the differential will increase. - AB

 

Yup. Depending on where the shop is that has the car I may take it to swap the actual tires as well, but if it isn't quick and easy I'll probably skip it.

 

My brain seems to have been on vacation...

With a larger tire I'll be going faster than my speedo says... when it says I'm going 60 I'll be going 63.2 MPH.

There isn't a way to recalibrate the speedo is there?

 

Re-read my post. That's what I was saying

There are places that will calibrate your speedometer, but my feeling is that it's not worth it. Just factory in the differential when driving and you'll be fine.

My guess is that with that the tires won't feel very good and you'll want to swap back. They're not too wide, but the sidewalls are too tall. - AB

 

Haha yeah you're right you did say that... like I said my brain is on vacation, it shouldn't be but it is. I'm looking at the cost of putting my tires on her rims and then her tires on my rims. So let's see that's 8 tire mounts and 4 balances. I won't balance her tires because we won't have that car anymore.

I don't like the feel of my car now because my rims are damaged and can't be fully balanced it's like sitting in a massage chair at sharper image.

Yeah it's not worth a recal unless it was a DIY (I can dream).

 

Height = (Width x (Ratio/100) x .03937 x 2) + Rim Diameter

Some 850's came with 195/60/R15
195 x (60/100) x .03937 x 2) + 15 = 9.21258 + 15 = 24.21258

Others came with 195/65/R15
(195 x (65/100) x .03937 x 2) + 15 = 9.980295 + 15 = 24.980295

850 T5's came with 205/55/R16
(205 x (55/100) x .03937 x 2) + 16 = 8.877935 + 16 = 24.877935

850 R's came with 205/45/R17
(205 x (45/100) x .03937 x 2) + 17 = 7.263765 + 17 = 24.263765

My 850 R is running with 205/60/R15
(205 x (60/100) x .03937 x 2) + 15 = 9.68502 + 15 = 24.68502

Your Mom's V70 SC tires are 205/65/R15
(205 x (65/100) x .03937 x 2) + 15 = 10.492105 + 15 = 25.492105

When I bought my 850 R it had 205/50/R17 -- and they slightly rubbed on the inner plastic fenders.
(205 x (50/100) x .03937 x 2) + 17 = 8.07085 + 17 = 25.07085

I wouldn't worry about recalibrating the speedo, because when you buy your next set of tires -- you will purchase the proper tire size. However, at a tire height of 25 1/2 inches, I would worry more about the tires rubbing on inner fender wheel well.

http://www.dsm.org/tools/tiresize.htm
http://www.eunos.com/tirecalc/
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTireMath.dos
http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCalculator.asp
http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/tirecalc.html
http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/tech/tools/
http://www.4lo.com/
http://www.dakota-truck.net/TIRECALC/tirecalc.html

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This is what I would do...

1) Purchase two new tires, mount and balance on your Mom's wheels, & install on your front.

2) Install your Mom's wheels and tires, as is, on your rear.

3) When you Mom's (now your rear) tires wear out...
-- rotate your front tires to the rear
-- install your your second new pair of tires on your front.

My thoughts...
-- since proper tire size is on the front wheels, no issues with rubbing or speedo.
-- the rear wheels don't care about tire size.
-- I have never bought four new tires at once. I buy a new pair of tires and install on rear. Then, I rotate rear to the front.

 

Thanks for the input rob.

I called the local tire place (just down the street from the body shop) they're willing to do all 8 swaps and the 4 balances for $140+ tax. I'll think about the larger rear wheel option but when rotation time comes I'll end up having bought a new set of tires (which aren't needed for either set) and still paid for 4 swaps and 4 balances. I need to keep four wheels on the totaled car so the body shop doesn't get upset. They don't care which set is on there come Monday, but 4 rims and tires need to be on it.

I did worry about the rubbing condition, but there are ways to limit it with spacers and such.

 

Where is the car located? I have a set of 16" Columbas with really bad tires on them. Sell you the whole set for $50 put them on your Mom's car, take hers and you have two sets of tires and wheels. I'm in Columbus, OH. I see you're in Troy, MI and you said 10 hours to the car. If it's in this direction that would be a real good thing for you to do. I'm tired of keeping these old tires and wheels from my previous 94 850 Turbo. One of the wheels is in pretty bad shape and two of them are bent, but who cares if you are putting them on a wrecked car.

 

The car is in NJ so Columbus is really out of the way. Even if you were on the way I'm not sure the body shop would be real thrilled losing both a good set of wheels and tires because as it stands right now all he looses is a set of good rims for set of not as good rims.

Thanks for the offer though.

 

OK just thought I would offer. I doubt the body shop would have any idea what you are putting on the car. Man that's a long way to drive to swap wheels. Columbas are actually wheels that a lot of people really like. Personally I don't care for the look, but they are 16" wheels that came on the higher end 850's. The T5R came with Volans or Titans which were 17", and the Columbas were the next step down, so the body shop would prbably not care. I doubt if they would even look at them.

 

I would purchase wheels from
-- classified ads on various Volvo forums
-- http://www.wheelcollision.com/volvo.htm

before I would drive 20 hours round trip...

especially over a set of run-of-the-mill 15inch Naiad(s).

Better idea yet...

Use these websites to put you in contact with local salvage yards...
http://car-part.com
http://www.copartfinder.com
http://www.autopartspeople.com
https://www.woodfins.com/index.ASP
http://www.worldparts.com/auto

Or simply -- purchase JimKW's wheels and have Discount Tire straighten and true them.

 

Well cash is tight overall for school so if these didn't show up I wouldn't be getting new wheels at all. I can justify it because it's a chance to go home and see family and friends, and my old HS is putting on a play and I'm still close to that program and the people who run it. I also need to get away from my roommate, granted 10 hours is overkill, but the drive doesn't phase me and helps me relax.

the other thing is 15" rims are really what the car needs right now. The roads here in MI are craptastic, my first weekend out here I blew the strut mount on my passenger side. The roads in NJ (home) aren't great in some areas nor are the roads in NY (school). At school I'll be doing a lot of on street parking so paraell parking will be common and a smaller rim will certainly help reduce damage to the rims.

In the end the Naiads are better than Argos

 

Well the swap is done, and I think the car looks a billion times better.

We got to the body shop put the car up on jackstands and took the wheels off. We looked at the diameter difference and yeah it was big, and as it turns out my tires have more tread left on them so it made sense to swap them.

We went to STS and had them mount and balance the tires. On the way back to the body shop we noticed a slight vibration, we didn’t think of anything of it. We swapped the wiper blades and the rear wiper arm. I also snagged the mats from the trunk. I was real tempted to swipe her driver seat, but the insurance company would probably throw a fit and I’m sure there would be another problem.

As we were driving back home the vibration got worse and because of time we couldn’t get back to the STS we delt with earlier. We found another, but they were closing and couldn’t take us. We ended up at Sears where they rebalanced the tires. 2 of the wheels were off by 2 oz, 1 was off by 1.5 oz, and the third was on the ball. In the end it all worked out, took a little longer than we thought, but all is well.

Thanks for everyone’s input and help!

Original Argo pic