Any input? I'm thinking of buying that or a new mercedes deisel that gets 720 miles per tank.

 

If you want power buy the S60R if not then buy the other.

 

Guess there arent many R owners here. Too bad. Except for the headrest that dont adjust, I love mine.

 

I would recommend the S60R, because I've heard many good things about it. It's an excellent machine, all that I can say. However, for real reviews from real "R" drivers, you may want to take a look at SwedeSpeed (www.swedespeed.com) in the "R Forum."

 

If you are buying a S60R, expect that you may have some strange problems, I has seen wheel bearings in the rear on several of the cars, We replaced a abs unit, which cost a couple of thousand dollars when out of warranty, a broken wire in the suspension wiring system, which was giving a front speed sensor code, the broken wire was in the rear. They are not problem free, but they are awesome cars to drive!!!!

 

What VLVOSVCCNST stated is true, these cars are not defect-free. However, keep in mind that no car is ideal and that there are many S60R's that do not contain any major problems. Basically, it is a risk and similar to a game of chance.

 

I've put almost 5K on mine since I got it in July. Just wish it was faster :-) ---still stock though. My only complaint with the car (as many will attest) is the ridiculous turning ratio, my wife's outback makes it look like a 100" yacht compared to a scarab when it comes to simply turning the car into a parking spot or a U-turn. Outside of that and "my" need for another 100hp or so I love it :-)

 

I'm not sure about 100 horsepower (that's stretching it a bit) but you can get about 80. Good exhaust, intake, ECU and a couple bottles should do the trick!

 

I dont think 100 hp is too much of a stretch. I had an AWD Eclipse (turbo) had larger intercooler pipes with upgraded air filter and intake pipes, boost controller, upgraded exhaust from the downpipe back. Still had the stock intercooler and turbo, and shop estimated the car had 300 hp (210 hp stock) with the boost controller set on the low side.

It all depends how much u want to spend.

 

Yes, budget does matter. But considering that your S60R already has 300bhp stock, I think that's plenty. Get an $800 ECU and that's about as far as you'll ever need to go with power.

 

Im not of that belief. I always want more power

 

So you do not see a reasonable limit for the car's power? Power most often requires a financial investment.

 

I didnt say there isnt a reasonable limit. And even if there was one we agreed on, that doesnt mean one cant want more power.

As for the financial aspect, unfortunately, some interests are more expensive than others. It all depends on what your interests are, and what one wants to invest.

 

Very true. I just think that 300hp is more than enough for my needs. Even the 268 in my T6 suffices. I do not use the car for racing. Yes, the S60R is beautiful as is and yes, with an ECU and other mods, it can be much better. In my opinion, however, if you're willing to invest a substantial amount of $$, you would be better off buying an M3 or M5 or other 'sports car' from the offset.

 

An M5?! For that much money I would by a Subaru Legacy GT/Volvo S40, and a Lotus Elise with the change!!!

Then again, If I could afford an M5, just imagine the mods I could make to my R