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Old 02-17-2008 | 04:52 PM
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lookin for some performance mods for my 04 s60 2.5t . My budget is about 1500. Ive read about some cold air intake systems, but i think there was only one that might work on the s60 form eurotuners or something like that. Anyways, im looking for mods that i can EASILY install, or are cheap to be installed, because im NO mechanic! So yes please give me some suggestions!
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Old 02-17-2008 | 06:49 PM
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The last time I made a suggestion about perfomance mods it became a big problem....

https://volvoforums.com/m_76983/tm.htm

But I stand behind what I said, and would do the same mods again. Hope that helps some...
 
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Old 02-17-2008 | 06:52 PM
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$1500 will go pretty quick, but here's my two cents.

IPD ECU upgrade $900 (208 -> 245HP, 236 -> 310TQ)
IPD Anti-sway bars $400 plus labor for installation.

Upgrade other things as your budget allows, but no sense in going fast if you can't keep it under control.

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Old 02-17-2008 | 07:36 PM
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Thanks, also air filter mods? no? i mean k&n, or cold air intake or anything?
 
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Old 02-17-2008 | 11:09 PM
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I tend to think that cold air intakes for these (P2) cars are overrated as well as a waste of perfectly good money. The factory intake isn't overly restrictive IMO, so there isn't much to gain by replacing it. I mean, yeah, a couple of horsepower. Woopidee-doo. The dollar/hp ratio stinks. And that's what you're interested in right? Most bang for your buck?

As far as K&N (or anything similar) panel filters... [shrugs his shoulders]. I have one. I bought it as an alternative to replacing a paper filter every 3-6 months. Did I notice any difference, no. Besides allowing fine particles to bypass its filtering, it can also lead to more frequent MAF sensor cleanings (oil buildup related). Therefore I can't really give it a thumbs up.
 
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Old 02-18-2008 | 01:10 PM
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I tend to think that cold air intakes for these (P2) cars are overrated as well as a waste of perfectly good money. The factory intake isn't overly restrictive IMO, so there isn't much to gain by replacing it.

At least in the R model, the intake is very resrictive. I puta version of the "R Kelly" intake on mine. You can actually hear the diff more than feel it. IMO, very worth it. And I still use a filter from the dealer so the MAF doesn't get crapped-up.

Personally, I never saw a CAI advertised that looked completely sealed from the engine compartment air.And if you are taking in hot air, why waste your time and money?
 
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Old 02-18-2008 | 01:27 PM
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1. What is your Hp goal?

2. We know your budget, but can you raise it more right now? If so let me know.

3. What you need to do first is STAGE ZERO. This is a must do if you want to do performance mods. Read about here in this link. https://volvoforums.com/m_38606/tm.htm

Also I can suggest performance mods but to be honest $1500 isn't much. It sounds like a lot and is a lot, but in the Volvo world you could easily buy one product and spend the entire amount if not more on that one product.

1. STAGE ZERO

2. Downpipe. I suggest you look into having one locally made at a muffler shop that can mandrel bend. 3" mandrel bent downpipe is what you want.

3. Catback system. Also look into having one locally made by a muffler shop that can mandrel bend. 2.5" mandrel bent catback system with a free flowing muffler such as BORLA or Magnaflow.

For numbers 2 and 3 you can also go online and purchase these items premade, but they will cost an arm and a leg and you will be out the $1500 in no time flat.

4. ECU upgrade. I suggest you look into RICA, IPD USA and BSR PPC. These are the three best ECU tuners on the Volvo market and have the best research and development into them. You wont go wrong with either of these companies, but you will pay a pretty penny and at least $700-$1000 for their ECU upgrades.

You can possibly go with the smaller tuning companies, but it wont be as good of tune. Companies like Upsolute and SpeedTuning USA. They are cheap and you get what you pay for.

5. Just stick with the OEM panel filter and or get a performance panel filter. You wont gain much from a ram style air intake. Maybe 5-8 Hp max. Also do not buy the R Kelly intake system, it is a piece of crap and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Do not waste $120 on it. Get the EuroSportTuning (EST) ram intake over the R Kelly any day.

You will see the most gains with the downpipe and ECU upgrades.

 
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Old 02-18-2008 | 01:40 PM
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EuroSportTuning (EST) Options

1. Intake, http://www.eurosporttuning.ca/Mercha...Code=VL-S60-en
$199.95

2. Catback, http://www.eurosporttuning.ca/Mercha...Code=VL-S60-en
$749.95 on sale currently for, $569.00

3. HEICO Catback Option, http://www.eurosporttuning.ca/Mercha...Code=VL-S60-en
$1,279.00 on sale for, $929.00

4. Downpipe, http://www.eurosporttuning.ca/Mercha...Code=VL-S60-en
$1,159.95

5. BSR PPC (ECU Upgrade), http://www.eurosporttuning.ca/Mercha...Code=VL-S60-en
$995.00

IPD USA (IPD) Options

1. Flash ECU Upgrade, http://www.ipdusa.com/Volvo-S60/Perf...p-74-403-2193/
$895.00

2. For downpipe and catback systems it looks like they only they have them for the R models. Call and ask if they have any for your model.

3. Softloader ECU Upgrade, http://www.ipdusa.com/Volvo-S60/Perf...p-74-403-1739/
$1,145.00 and $1,295.00

Viva Performance Options

1. Downpipe, http://www.vivaperformance.com/catal...roducts_id=410
$1,049.99

2. Catback, http://www.vivaperformance.com/catal...roducts_id=411
$659.99

3. ECU Upgrade (RICA), http://www.vivaperformance.com/catal...roducts_id=245
$999.99

As you can see prices for prefabbed and ECU upgrades are not cheap. Nothing like HONDA and TOYOTA prices you see. We are a small niche group and prices are always going to be high.
 
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Old 02-18-2008 | 05:48 PM
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5. Just stick with the OEM panel filter and or get a performance panel filter. You wont gain much from a ram style air intake. Maybe 5-8 Hp max. Also do not buy the R Kelly intake system, it is a piece of crap and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Do not waste $120 on it. Get the EuroSportTuning (EST) ram intake over the R Kelly any day.


Not really sure if your issue is with me, SS, or "R Kelly", but as an owner of an S60 R I can tell you the system is worth it. I can only assume it would do well on a 2.5T. Additionally, looking at EST's website, unless you do some fabrication of your own to the EST system, it is not sealed off from the engine bay air. Pulling in hot air defeats the purpose.
 
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Old 02-18-2008 | 07:17 PM
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5. Just stick with the OEM panel filter and or get a performance panel filter. You wont gain much from a ram style air intake. Maybe 5-8 Hp max. Also do not buy the R Kelly intake system, it is a piece of crap and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Do not waste $120 on it. Get the EuroSportTuning (EST) ram intake over the R Kelly any day.


Not really sure if your issue is with me, SS, or "R Kelly", but as an owner of an S60 R I can tell you the system is worth it. I can only assume it would do well on a 2.5T. Additionally, looking at EST's website, unless you do some fabrication of your own to the EST system, it is not sealed off from the engine bay air. Pulling in hot air defeats the purpose.
My issue is that you have to cut your OEM airbox. That's not good for starters.

Two you could go to your local hardware store and buy the same stuff for $10 and save yourself $110. It is so easy to make and pointless to spend $120 on. The only thing in that kit worth some money is the air scoop. And even that is only worth $20 tops. Seriously again you could probably find something just as good at the hardware store.

Also the EST and or IPD USA intake are not completely sealed of no. But they are damn close.

You may have the R Kelly intake, but do you really think it was worth the $120 it costs, when you know well enough you could have made it for much much much less.
 
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Old 02-18-2008 | 08:32 PM
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OK, seriously WTF is your problem?

1-You have an issue cutting the air box, but completely removing it for the way you do it is OK? Cutting it is easy, and keeps the intake air sealed off. And I have not had any issues with it, nor have I read of anyone else having problems.

2-The system works good enough that people have installed two hoses, one from the driver's side, one from the passenger's side. I personally have the one hose set-up, but again, have not read of anyone with one or two hoses having issues.

3-Looking at the pic for the S60 EST intake it is not close to being completely shut off

4-If you bothered reading the other topic, you would have seen all the parts I used were from a company called Pegasus Auto Racing. In any event, you will not find all of the items to make a similar CAI for $10.

5-From what I have seen it doesn't look like a piece of crap, I haven't read any complaints about the quality of the parts, and I was very happy with the quality of the parts from Pegasus. Just because YOU have an issue with the price OF THE SPECIFIC R KELLY system, don't tell people it doesn't work.Again, I have it and it works.
 
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Old 02-18-2008 | 08:37 PM
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Removing the airbox is easier then cutting it, that is for sure.

Also the parts used are so cheap, you can def. do it from LOWES or HOME DEPOT for under $20 for sure.

Ok the s60 one isn't like the 850 or 70 series. So be it.

I never said it doesn't work. I said it isn't worth spending $120 on when you can make it yourself for $20 or less. And yes you can make it for les then $20.

So why don't you drop the subject because your not going to win.

Or better yet I will close this topic until you just keep your mouth shut about it. Either way works for me.

I don't know about you, but this looks like complete crap to me.
http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=93463
http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=63242

 
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Old 02-18-2008 | 08:53 PM
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Nice to see a moderator acting this way....

1-Actually, cutting the air box is quite easy. All one needs is a hole saw. I know, I did it.

2-Show the links to how you will make it for under $20.00.

3-Oh, and since you won...

 
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Old 02-19-2008 | 06:56 PM
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damn guys, lets now turn this into a flame war, but seriously thanks for all the help so far, if you could now kindly go to my other post about my nav system https://volvoforums.com/m_85237/tm.htm i just bought that, is it possible to install into my car? or did i just waste my money?
 
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Old 02-19-2008 | 07:35 PM
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So, I'm allowed to talk now I take it?

In any event, fireluverandrew I hope you found some helpful info somewhere in there. FWIW, my advise is from what I have personally done to my car. If I thought somethingwasn't worth it, I would say so, so one wouldn't make thethe same mistakes.

As far as the navigation, I really don't know about stereo/AV stuff, so I can't help you there.
 
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Old 02-19-2008 | 07:40 PM
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thanks guys ill post pics after the performance mod but if aynone knows about the nav system PLEASE post
 
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