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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 12:52 AM
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I may have a big issue... Funny Story, I was hearing noise and squeaking in my suspension. I was thinking it was my control arms and I even purchased them. Although, while driving I just heard a clank and sound of something hitting the the ground. I made it home and only noticed my power steering seemed a bit tough to turn when I accelerated. I took it to a shop and they showed me that both my rear sub frame mounts were hanging completely off. The 6 safety screws were completely gone, like they were never installed. I was able to get the screws replaced for free, thanks to a generous shop. They told me that I would need a welding and a bunch of other stuff, I then took it to another shop and they said my bearing looked like it fell out. I don't know whats wrong but I have these pictures...





I'm hoping its just the bearings. My car drives now but I need to fix it. Any ideas what is wrong?
 
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Old Jan 6, 2013 | 10:59 AM
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Wow, I've been working on Volvo's for a while now and I've never seen that. It looks like the threaded inserts (that the big bolt threads into) both came out of the body. I suppose someone could have overtorqued them, but that's pretty hard to do.

The shop it right, you'll need a body shop for this repair. They'll need to weld the sleeves back into the body
 
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Old Jan 6, 2013 | 02:14 PM
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Any idea what it would cost to repair? Will they need to pull out the engine/subframe to weld it? Also, what's your opinion on driving it? Ok at low speeds?
 
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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 08:52 AM
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I have no idea what it would cost, I'm not a body guy. I don't know what's involved, they may be able to weld it with the subframe removed. You can remove the subframe without removing the engine and transmission, so it isn't that bad.

If its just held up with the other two smaller bolts, I would get it fixed sooner rather than later
 
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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 09:00 AM
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Stuff like this aways triggers other questions in my mind...

1. How long have you owned the car?

2. Has the car been in some major front end accident?

3. Have you made Volvo aware of this problem?

4. How old is the car?

I would NOT recommended driving the car at all. Whenever a stress point fails, it adds MORE stress to another point, which is likely the reason you have more than 1 bad mounting point. This can quickly lead to a tragic accident, even at low speeds.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 07:10 PM
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O_O Daaamn...lol
that's pretty serious
sorry but you have a lot of work on your hands
and even when your done, that thing will never be aligned properly again.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by schwimms
Any idea what it would cost to repair? Will they need to pull out the engine/subframe to weld it? Also, what's your opinion on driving it? Ok at low speeds?
DO NOT DRIVE THIS CAR! unless you are pulling it up on a flatbed to be towed to a repair shop
you will kill someone driving in this condition
 
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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 08:39 PM
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After repair, there is no reason the car couldn't be properly aligned.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2013 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ES6T
After repair, there is no reason the car couldn't be properly aligned.
i say that, only because ive never had a car aligned properly. many different shops and many different cars. and they always pull one way or the other. =/
 
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Old Jan 8, 2013 | 02:01 PM
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There are other factors that can cause a pull, such as tire wear and road conditions. If you think you should be able to drive straight without holding the wheel, that isn't exactly realistic.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2013 | 05:26 PM
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I appreciate everyones comments. It's going to be at the shop tomorrow.
 
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