Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor (IAT)
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Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor (IAT)
Looking for some troubleshooting help.
I had my check engine light come on with the code P0118- relates to the coolant level or sensor. The fan would stay running for a couple minutes when the car was turned off, and when trying to start it would have trouble but then eventually starts up.
I replaced the coolant temp sensor (IAT) and the CEL went out and car shut off without the fan running and started right up. Drove about 20 miles and the CEL is now back on and fan continued to run again after turning the car off.
Should I replace something else? What should I try next?
Any help/input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
I had my check engine light come on with the code P0118- relates to the coolant level or sensor. The fan would stay running for a couple minutes when the car was turned off, and when trying to start it would have trouble but then eventually starts up.
I replaced the coolant temp sensor (IAT) and the CEL went out and car shut off without the fan running and started right up. Drove about 20 miles and the CEL is now back on and fan continued to run again after turning the car off.
Should I replace something else? What should I try next?
Any help/input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Looking for some troubleshooting help.
I had my check engine light come on with the code P0118- relates to the coolant level or sensor. The fan would stay running for a couple minutes when the car was turned off, and when trying to start it would have trouble but then eventually starts up.
I replaced the coolant temp sensor (IAT) and the CEL went out and car shut off without the fan running and started right up. Drove about 20 miles and the CEL is now back on and fan continued to run again after turning the car off.
Should I replace something else? What should I try next?
Any help/input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
I had my check engine light come on with the code P0118- relates to the coolant level or sensor. The fan would stay running for a couple minutes when the car was turned off, and when trying to start it would have trouble but then eventually starts up.
I replaced the coolant temp sensor (IAT) and the CEL went out and car shut off without the fan running and started right up. Drove about 20 miles and the CEL is now back on and fan continued to run again after turning the car off.
Should I replace something else? What should I try next?
Any help/input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Just for clarification, the IAT is the Intake Air Temperature Sensor and the ECT is the Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor. P0118 is indeed an ECT error code.
You can drop it in a pan of water and heat it up.
The resistance / Temp (degrees C not F) readings are as follows:
0 degrees - 5740 Ohms
10 degrees - 3700 Ohms
20 degrees - 2450 Ohms
40 degrees - 1150 Ohms
80 degrees - 318 Ohms
100 degrees- 184 Ohms
...Lee
You can drop it in a pan of water and heat it up.
The resistance / Temp (degrees C not F) readings are as follows:
0 degrees - 5740 Ohms
10 degrees - 3700 Ohms
20 degrees - 2450 Ohms
40 degrees - 1150 Ohms
80 degrees - 318 Ohms
100 degrees- 184 Ohms
...Lee
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#8
Took the readings, the sensor seems to be giving the proper readings.
The ECU end is reading 5.4 K Ohms at a fairly warm temperature. I read somewhere the reading hot should be 5.59 K Ohms and cold 5.56 K Ohms. Is this reading close enough the the required range? Or could this be the problem?
Thanks.
The ECU end is reading 5.4 K Ohms at a fairly warm temperature. I read somewhere the reading hot should be 5.59 K Ohms and cold 5.56 K Ohms. Is this reading close enough the the required range? Or could this be the problem?
Thanks.
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So the readings from your sensor correlated to what Lee posted? How did you test it?
?? All your readings are above 5000 ohms which per Lee's table is in the neighborhood of 0 degrees C or 32 degrees F which I would not consider "warm". You're not reading this with the ECU in the loop are you?
Here's the table from 850 manual which pretty much jibes with Lee's:
ENGINE COOLANT TEMPERATURE SENSOR RESISTANCE TABLE
Temperature F (C) Ohms
32 (0) .............................................. 7300
68 (20) ............................................. 2800
176 (80) ............................................. 300
212 (100) ............................................ 150
So if you are truly reading over 5K ohms once engine is warmed up and you've validated your sensor works then I'd suspect your thermostat is stuck open? Have you ckd that? Where's your temp gauge at?
Here's the table from 850 manual which pretty much jibes with Lee's:
ENGINE COOLANT TEMPERATURE SENSOR RESISTANCE TABLE
Temperature F (C) Ohms
32 (0) .............................................. 7300
68 (20) ............................................. 2800
176 (80) ............................................. 300
212 (100) ............................................ 150
So if you are truly reading over 5K ohms once engine is warmed up and you've validated your sensor works then I'd suspect your thermostat is stuck open? Have you ckd that? Where's your temp gauge at?
Last edited by gdog; 01-07-2013 at 10:48 PM.
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I checked the sensor using a mulitmeter, which those readings were accurate to what Lee posted.
My temperature gauge goes up to around the 4 oclock position and doesnt move.
A quick update: I clean the new sensor connector and put some lubricant on it. Car has been starting fine and shutting off without the fan running. Check engine light is still on.
I will check out the thermostat.
Thanks for all the help.
My temperature gauge goes up to around the 4 oclock position and doesnt move.
A quick update: I clean the new sensor connector and put some lubricant on it. Car has been starting fine and shutting off without the fan running. Check engine light is still on.
I will check out the thermostat.
Thanks for all the help.
#12
I checked the sensor using a mulitmeter, which those readings were accurate to what Lee posted.
My temperature gauge goes up to around the 4 oclock position and doesnt move.
A quick update: I clean the new sensor connector and put some lubricant on it. Car has been starting fine and shutting off without the fan running. Check engine light is still on.
I will check out the thermostat.
Thanks for all the help.
My temperature gauge goes up to around the 4 oclock position and doesnt move.
A quick update: I clean the new sensor connector and put some lubricant on it. Car has been starting fine and shutting off without the fan running. Check engine light is still on.
I will check out the thermostat.
Thanks for all the help.
#13
Here is the true:
I've just replaced my ECT sensor with spare one and tested it on the road. The gauge is where it should be (at 3 o'clock). I'm happy and the car also!
The mechanical part:
I took out my old ECT sensor and submerged it along with spare one in the same pot filled with antifreeze, for same measurement conditions. My old sensor showed ~6.5kOhm, spare sensor ~ 2,8kOhm. The higher Ohms mean lower temperature (see table in the beginning of this topic). That's why I've got those symptoms: cooling fan doesn't turn on, temp gauge needle at 4 o'clock and overheating in traffic jam.
I red many posts about how ECT sensors fail, but they usually get a shot circuit, that cause cooling fan always on. The same thing is when your ECT sensor is totally unplugged. But in my case incorrect ECT sensor readings were the main problem.
I've just replaced my ECT sensor with spare one and tested it on the road. The gauge is where it should be (at 3 o'clock). I'm happy and the car also!
The mechanical part:
I took out my old ECT sensor and submerged it along with spare one in the same pot filled with antifreeze, for same measurement conditions. My old sensor showed ~6.5kOhm, spare sensor ~ 2,8kOhm. The higher Ohms mean lower temperature (see table in the beginning of this topic). That's why I've got those symptoms: cooling fan doesn't turn on, temp gauge needle at 4 o'clock and overheating in traffic jam.
I red many posts about how ECT sensors fail, but they usually get a shot circuit, that cause cooling fan always on. The same thing is when your ECT sensor is totally unplugged. But in my case incorrect ECT sensor readings were the main problem.
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