Control Arm Bushing problem?
#21
I have a 2003 S60 with 101k miles. Just had timing belt and water pump replaced at an Indie shop. They say the control arm bushings need to be replaced and quoted $637. (They did not specify but I will get clarification...are there 4 total on front, 2 upper , 2 lower)? Also said front stabilizer links need to be replaced, quoted $212. Are these typical for 101k miles and do these costs sound reasonable. I'm evaluating if I want this to be my "go to" shop in future. Thanks a bunch for your insights!
#22
There are two per arm, but if you are paying to have them done, it is usually cheaper to replace the whole arm because the labor is less. That price sounds like it is for the whole arm, so they are doing the honest thing even if it makes them less money.
Sway bar link price sounds right too if they are using Volvo parts.
Sway bar link price sounds right too if they are using Volvo parts.
#23
Looking for expert advice-
I have replaced the lower control arms, struts, strut bushings/spring mounts, on my 2002 S80 non-turbo. This done in July of 2011- so about 9 months wear on them.
Recently, the car has developed a veer to the left when braking. I had my son drive it while I watched, and I could see the right front (passenger) wheel turn in (left) when stopping. Did not have to be a hard stop, just anything above "retirement community" style braking (real easy).
Pulled the RF wheel and could see the rear bushing had the rubber torn away from the center steel tube- see attached photo. When I tried to turn the knuckle assy by hand, I could see a good amount of play in that bushing.
I tried to see if there was play in any nut/bolt assy- tire rod ends, ball joints, struts, strut mounts, strut to knuckle botls, etc... but found nothing on either side. So I am guessing it is the bushing, not something else.
Can anyone confirm that a blown out bushing can cause this veer?
I have replaced the lower control arms, struts, strut bushings/spring mounts, on my 2002 S80 non-turbo. This done in July of 2011- so about 9 months wear on them.
Recently, the car has developed a veer to the left when braking. I had my son drive it while I watched, and I could see the right front (passenger) wheel turn in (left) when stopping. Did not have to be a hard stop, just anything above "retirement community" style braking (real easy).
Pulled the RF wheel and could see the rear bushing had the rubber torn away from the center steel tube- see attached photo. When I tried to turn the knuckle assy by hand, I could see a good amount of play in that bushing.
I tried to see if there was play in any nut/bolt assy- tire rod ends, ball joints, struts, strut mounts, strut to knuckle botls, etc... but found nothing on either side. So I am guessing it is the bushing, not something else.
Can anyone confirm that a blown out bushing can cause this veer?
Had to replace the arms each time because the bushings as stated come pre packed on the arms..... I went with Volvo OEM on this last replacement and not some down the road parts store arms. We think my car was in a front end accident before we bought it used. We keep having to replace front end parts on this car all the time. Bushings are our worst nightmare, they don't last long for us.....
Good luck.
Last edited by spankey; 08-18-2013 at 04:42 AM.
#24
#25
Common Control Arm Failure due to Installation
A little known fact (I even had to educate a Volvo mechanic with) is that the control arms MUST be installed under load. Otherwise, premature failure is inevitable. The reason being, if tightened when suspended without load, the rubber will be twisted when the car is lowered and under its natural load, leading to premature wear (guaranteed), regardless of the quality of control arm ball joints you use.
Easy to do, just place tall support post under wheel then carefully lower car to riding height. (in my car the full load was the same as the riding height)
1) measure center of wheel to edge of fender when on the ground.
2)when on the hoist, load to this same distance as when on the ground. Then tighten all control arm nuts to proper torque and that's all there is to it.
...easy as that
Volvo and Audi require control arms to be installed under load... or, they will simply fail in a by far, by far, shorter time. By far. The difference is lasting for 20K miles or 250K+ miles.
On another note, nothing beats Volvo original parts, Lemfords are excellent too, but for the fraction of the price you can get better with the Heavy Duty Meyle Control arms. I trust their control arms with incredible reviews on other forums as well. Mind you, I trust ONLY their control arms as their other parts I suspect are no where near up to par with Volvo quality. Like brakes for example. From my years of experience, always use original Volvo parts to avoid warpage, squeal etc., as I found no other manufacturer coming even close. With Meyle I found their heavy duty control arms are actually better for less! Like 56 bucks vs 176 bucks with the blue heavy duty seals, awesome product.
Hope this post helps.
Cheers!
Easy to do, just place tall support post under wheel then carefully lower car to riding height. (in my car the full load was the same as the riding height)
1) measure center of wheel to edge of fender when on the ground.
2)when on the hoist, load to this same distance as when on the ground. Then tighten all control arm nuts to proper torque and that's all there is to it.
...easy as that
Volvo and Audi require control arms to be installed under load... or, they will simply fail in a by far, by far, shorter time. By far. The difference is lasting for 20K miles or 250K+ miles.
On another note, nothing beats Volvo original parts, Lemfords are excellent too, but for the fraction of the price you can get better with the Heavy Duty Meyle Control arms. I trust their control arms with incredible reviews on other forums as well. Mind you, I trust ONLY their control arms as their other parts I suspect are no where near up to par with Volvo quality. Like brakes for example. From my years of experience, always use original Volvo parts to avoid warpage, squeal etc., as I found no other manufacturer coming even close. With Meyle I found their heavy duty control arms are actually better for less! Like 56 bucks vs 176 bucks with the blue heavy duty seals, awesome product.
Hope this post helps.
Cheers!
Last edited by Jamez123; 10-25-2013 at 01:00 PM.
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