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Old Dec 8, 2022 | 12:25 PM
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Greetings!

Anyone have noteworthy tips/info to share about the challenges accessing the heater core damper servomotor (item #31 on this diagram)? The car in question is a late-90s variant.

At this point, I need to just prop the heater core damper (item #3 on this diagram) open in the interest of not freezing to death until Spring

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Old Dec 8, 2022 | 01:30 PM
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With most Volvos - the default if the climate system failed - was heated air flowing to the foot wells. Your system uses vacuum to move the servos - and the servos I would see broken would be the recirculate servo (somewhere near the glove box) and the servo closest to the drivers right foot - That one would leak and cause the face level vents to stop working when accelerating. We would disconnect them, and block off the vacuum line. Have fixed many broken vacuum lines to solve vent problems on those cars - exactly what does and does not work with your vent system?

And looking closely at the diagram #31 does look like an electric motor. Where that servo is - if you can't get to it after the glove box is out - the dash will have to get moved out of the way. (Volvo does not have specific instructions for just that part in their service manual) Below is a drawing of what it's supposed to look like with the dash removed.
 

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Old Dec 8, 2022 | 02:41 PM
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@hoonk:
Thanks for dropping by

We've had the face vent issue for years now. Annoying, but livable if the A/C is doing its job...

This is a new wrinkle, however. Full coolant flow through the heater core (manual coolant valve installed; hoses hot) and no cabin heat. For the first time ever, absolutely no air is passing through the core; and the only thing blocking it looks to be the damper which is used to blend air flows between the A/C evaporator and heater core.

On that note, a dirty little secret with these cars is that the compressor isn't cycled on and off to regulate cabin temps in the Summertime (which would save fuel and wear) -- but, instead, the air handler is selectively fed hot air from the heater core if cabin temps drop below control setpoint.

At any rate, I just saw this video posted by Robert DIY a few years back:

With all of the camera jostling and moving focus, it's hard to tell what will need to come out to get at the damper linkage and servomotor. Best guess is that a glove box pull should reveal some of the relevant componentry; but without tearing the whole mess out as Robert did, I can't know for sure...

Any tips from experience would be a boon to me at this point
 

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Old Dec 10, 2022 | 11:05 AM
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OK, here's the scoop:

The "servomotor" (air blend motor) is located directly behind the glove box. Two T25 screws are all that hold that box in place; and it just snaps out of position after the screws are removed. Access to the servomotor is then quite reasonable, considering the possibilities

Take a look at timestamps 18:01 and 18:19 in the previous post's video for a reasonable idea of how this all looks when the box is pulled.

Two 7mm head screws hold the servomotor assembly in position against an adjacent air handler housing assembly. Then one must figure out how to release the damper lever rod retainer before the servomotor can be pulled out for service or replacement.

This removal procedure seems quite tricky to do correctly; as the lever rod is threaded to a measured length into the rod retainer. The rod retainer also clips FIRMLY into a hole on the servomotor crank; and, due to the fact that the rod retainer is SPLIT(!), the threaded rod will lose its adjustment when the rod retainer is released from the crank. It looks like another five-handed mess in a shoebox to do right unless you just don't care about this type of thing...

This all said, the actual internal electric motor in my particular specimen seems to be shot; as applying a reversible test voltage to the relevant pins on the connector resulted in no servomotor crank movement.

So, for my immediate purposes, I simply removed the two aforementioned 7mm head mounting screws and pulled the intact and mechanically-connected servomotor assembly -- lever rod and all -- gently forward, and tie-wired it in position against a nearby steel crossmember. This, in turn, pulls the damper fully open and keeps it there: Heat once again! This will work as an emergency repair until warmer weather comes.

I hope this information is of some use to whoever might pass this way again

Cheers --

Footnote:
If you need to pull out the ECC unit itself for some reason, take a look at this video for a good approach:
 
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