XC90 Nightmare
#41
As a matter of fact though, while spark plugs appear to be a simple job there is plenty of opportunity for a novice to screw it up in an expensive way. So I would not push him to do it.
In what city are you located? Maybe we can find you a mechanic.
#42
I'm new here and not that mechanical myself, so of limited use, but I agree that a lot of your issues sounded like potential battery/power issues.
Where to from here I defer to the experienced Volvo members.
-Jeff
#43
Basically he's not happy that the car I bought is so troublesome so he's left it for me to figure out. I bought him a spark plug socket today so he'd take them out, but he really knows nothing about cars so he didn't do anything.
Yes, battery change & air filter change. I was trying to avoid having to pay someone to change the spark plugs, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen. A lot of people sounded like they thought the misfires could be helped by the battery, so I just wanted to add in that it they are still there.
Yes, battery change & air filter change. I was trying to avoid having to pay someone to change the spark plugs, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen. A lot of people sounded like they thought the misfires could be helped by the battery, so I just wanted to add in that it they are still there.
This is important info in deciding how to advise you in what direction to take . The spark plugs should be changed regardless as a part of normal maintenance .
You will need to find a competent person (mechanic) to keep this vehicle operating correctly.
#44
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#46
How frustrating for you.
As a matter of fact though, while spark plugs appear to be a simple job there is plenty of opportunity for a novice to screw it up in an expensive way. So I would not push him to do it.
In what city are you located? Maybe we can find you a mechanic.
As a matter of fact though, while spark plugs appear to be a simple job there is plenty of opportunity for a novice to screw it up in an expensive way. So I would not push him to do it.
In what city are you located? Maybe we can find you a mechanic.
That makes me feel a little better about him not doing it.
I am in Provo, UT & I would love to find a great mechanic nearby - I'm hesitant to go back to the local independent volvo shop after my experience there so far. My uncle owns a body shop but they have a mechanic there as well, I'm taking the car there today for the spark plugs, but I'd like to find someone who knows European cars really well (this guy may, I honestly don't know yet because I haven't been over there yet). You'd think I'd have one by now with 2 vw's 2 audis & a land rover under my belt. not to mention the audis, bmw's & land rovers I grew up with!
#47
It would be best to keep your husband out from under the hood . At what point were these trouble codes extracted from the car's computer ? Where did you go to get these codes ?
This is important info in deciding how to advise you in what direction to take . The spark plugs should be changed regardless as a part of normal maintenance .
You will need to find a competent person (mechanic) to keep this vehicle operating correctly.
This is important info in deciding how to advise you in what direction to take . The spark plugs should be changed regardless as a part of normal maintenance .
You will need to find a competent person (mechanic) to keep this vehicle operating correctly.
I am taking the car to change spark plugs today. If that doesn't help the misfires, I don't know the next action.
#48
I'm a member at a diesel vehicle board (tdiclub.com) that maintains a list of trusted mechanics. It can be hit or miss and you can have a bad experience at a good shop, but here's what I have for you. If you also own VWs the first two shops are VW specialists.
Autobahn Service Center
232 S Freedom Blvd
Provo, UT 84601
Alpine Foreign Repair
341 East 900 South
Salt Lake City, Utah 84111
You might also try:
Foreign Aid Foreign Auto
341 S State St
Orem, UT 84058
#49
I said I wasn't mechanical, I didn't say I was new to cars.
There is no question a number of the issues the OP listed, on this or any modern car with lots of electronics, could be caused by a battery with low voltage or an alternator problem.
While that no longer appears to be the case, it was a perfectly appropriate and helpful observation and worth checking.
-Jeff
Last edited by jac1d; 12-04-2014 at 07:41 PM.
#50
So nice to be so politely welcomed...
I said I wasn't mechanical, I didn't say I was new to cars.
There is no question a number of the issues the OP listed, on this or any modern car with lots of electronics, could be caused by a battery with low voltage or an alternator problem.
While that no longer appears to be the case, it was a perfectly appropriate and helpful observation and worth checking.
-Jeff
I said I wasn't mechanical, I didn't say I was new to cars.
There is no question a number of the issues the OP listed, on this or any modern car with lots of electronics, could be caused by a battery with low voltage or an alternator problem.
While that no longer appears to be the case, it was a perfectly appropriate and helpful observation and worth checking.
-Jeff
Also, the battery did potentially help, still misfiring but I had an issue where my heater would switch blowing hot & cold air every few seconds on the passenger side, that is no longer a problem. The crankshaft sensor has not come on again, so I think the battery change did help things just not everything.
#51
You do the easy things first and then move forward in a systematic way. Report back after plugs are changed.
I'm a member at a diesel vehicle board (tdiclub.com) that maintains a list of trusted mechanics. It can be hit or miss and you can have a bad experience at a good shop, but here's what I have for you. If you also own VWs the first two shops are VW specialists.
Autobahn Service Center
232 S Freedom Blvd
Provo, UT 84601
Alpine Foreign Repair
341 East 900 South
Salt Lake City, Utah 84111
You might also try:
Foreign Aid Foreign Auto
341 S State St
Orem, UT 84058
I'm a member at a diesel vehicle board (tdiclub.com) that maintains a list of trusted mechanics. It can be hit or miss and you can have a bad experience at a good shop, but here's what I have for you. If you also own VWs the first two shops are VW specialists.
Autobahn Service Center
232 S Freedom Blvd
Provo, UT 84601
Alpine Foreign Repair
341 East 900 South
Salt Lake City, Utah 84111
You might also try:
Foreign Aid Foreign Auto
341 S State St
Orem, UT 84058
Got some good news if I end up needing a cat, Erie has some exhaust manifolds for sale, and my uncles shop said they'd put it in. The other shop I called said they wouldn't because its illegal :X
#52
So nice to be so politely welcomed...
I said I wasn't mechanical, I didn't say I was new to cars.
There is no question a number of the issues the OP listed, on this or any modern car with lots of electronics, could be caused by a battery with low voltage or an alternator problem.
While that no longer appears to be the case, it was a perfectly appropriate and helpful observation and worth checking.
-Jeff
I said I wasn't mechanical, I didn't say I was new to cars.
There is no question a number of the issues the OP listed, on this or any modern car with lots of electronics, could be caused by a battery with low voltage or an alternator problem.
While that no longer appears to be the case, it was a perfectly appropriate and helpful observation and worth checking.
-Jeff
Last edited by migbro; 12-04-2014 at 11:48 PM.
#53
Check out the second post on this thread...
Also, the battery did potentially help, still misfiring but I had an issue where my heater would switch blowing hot & cold air every few seconds on the passenger side, that is no longer a problem. The crankshaft sensor has not come on again, so I think the battery change did help things just not everything.
Also, the battery did potentially help, still misfiring but I had an issue where my heater would switch blowing hot & cold air every few seconds on the passenger side, that is no longer a problem. The crankshaft sensor has not come on again, so I think the battery change did help things just not everything.
Last edited by migbro; 12-04-2014 at 11:48 PM.
#54
#55
Spark plugs are changed.
So far, the CEL came on within like 2 blocks of the mechanic shop. Then, we cleared it & it came back about a mile and a half later (all last night). This morning, we drove about half a mile & it flashed & gave the message to "slow down or shift up". Pulled over, turned it off, pulled codes once more & had: P0300, P0302, P0303, P0304, P0306, P0307, P0308, P0336, & P0430.
We did not clear them, but drove to the shop where they were put in, about 5-10 miles. He plugged in and only saw the P0300 & P0430. He reset again and the light did not come back until 15 miles.
I went back to the same place that I pulled the codes this morning & the guy helped me this time. The only code he saw was P0430. I'm not sure if what I pulled this morning were old codes? Or if they went away on their own?
We haven't felt any loss of power since the plugs were changed but, I don't feel confident that the problem is fixed yet. One of the plugs they pulled out was broken & they looked terrible, so they needed to be changed regardless.
So far, the CEL came on within like 2 blocks of the mechanic shop. Then, we cleared it & it came back about a mile and a half later (all last night). This morning, we drove about half a mile & it flashed & gave the message to "slow down or shift up". Pulled over, turned it off, pulled codes once more & had: P0300, P0302, P0303, P0304, P0306, P0307, P0308, P0336, & P0430.
We did not clear them, but drove to the shop where they were put in, about 5-10 miles. He plugged in and only saw the P0300 & P0430. He reset again and the light did not come back until 15 miles.
I went back to the same place that I pulled the codes this morning & the guy helped me this time. The only code he saw was P0430. I'm not sure if what I pulled this morning were old codes? Or if they went away on their own?
We haven't felt any loss of power since the plugs were changed but, I don't feel confident that the problem is fixed yet. One of the plugs they pulled out was broken & they looked terrible, so they needed to be changed regardless.
#56
Interesting what people call a nightmare. I would have started with new coil packs and spark plugs first. Then a new battery and voltage regulator.
Spending hours googling codes tells you nothing unless you are trained to read and interpret the codes.
Don't blame the dealer either. They did not design or assemble the vehicle.
And btw, all vehicles can be problems. Man up.
Spending hours googling codes tells you nothing unless you are trained to read and interpret the codes.
Don't blame the dealer either. They did not design or assemble the vehicle.
And btw, all vehicles can be problems. Man up.
#58
You should check if moisture is getting into your distributor cap. You should check my Volvo Horror story.
https://volvoforums.com/forum/volvo-...17/#post427144
https://volvoforums.com/forum/volvo-...17/#post427144