2002 V70 seat belt SIGNEL lies to scanner.

Old Jun 12, 2019 | 03:04 PM
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I am working on a 2002 V70, I have replaced the front seats with SIPS ones instead of SRS, why? You may ask, well not too many correct SRS seats that are not as bad as the ones I took out. Even so these cost 200€ the pair and I had to change the runners for the longer ones.

The seats were and are none powered, no pressure switch, only car connections are SRS, buckle, headrest speaker. Right ,(passengers) seat has a black module under it, nothing under the left seat.

Using Autel AL619 OBD2 AND IT RESETS THE SBS, ABS as well as the usual very easily.

Anyway, fitted 2.2 Ohm resistors and fault saying air bag resistance too low has gone on reset but,,, the "high capacidence" remains as does " drivers seat belt buckle, no SIGNEL" but, when I connect the buckel it turns the light off on the dash so it IS getting signals.
What is the SRS "capacitance" thing?

I removed the CEM and it's like new, no corrosion etc, (we don't get a lot of rain here.)

Opened the buckles (oh yes you can) which I transferred from the old seats and checked continuity which was good and sensor (not switch) was not damaged which was proven as it turns off the seat belt warning light. Seems there is no problem with right buckle but I opened it and cleaned it anyway. Is the seatbelt buckle fault tied in with the SIPS faults?

Wana laugh? It failed test on split seat skins, exposed side airbags, "risk of cuts" so we stitched them up, failed again because we had stitched them, changed seats and failed because SRS light on. Ha ha ha, not. We were also told another fail was the seat covers (with air bag seams) not allowed.

Fault codes
SRS 0042 RIGHT SIPS BAG, CAPACITY TOO HIGH

00DO. SEAT BUCKLE, DRIVERS SIGNEL MISSING.

SRS 0032 LEFT SIPS BAG CAPACITY, TOO HIGH

Left and right "SRS AIR BAG RESISTANCE TOO LOW" Cleared.

So anyone got this?





 
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Old Jun 13, 2019 | 06:36 AM
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Now, to those who would say, "don't mess with airbags, fit proper seats with SRS not SIPS", there are none here that are better than the ones we took out and they were bad, also with the 'stand alone' SIPS seats we still have the side protection, so the safety issue doesn't really apply

Resistors are 2.2 Ohm,
Caps, I am told else where on this forum, are one 456 (45.nf?) in series on green/orange (G/O) and .01 Mfd in parallel. G/O and O, These are normally in the airbag connector and not the cars connector so have to be fitted as well as the resistors.

Still hoping 'someone' will have the answer to the seat buckle mystery. "signal missing" but it puts light out on dash ????


Still trying to get the "Capacitance too high" fault solved, the 2.2 Ohm Resistance was easy.


This WILL eliminate the SRS light.
 

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Old Jul 5, 2019 | 06:28 AM
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So far I have posted a couple of threads and added to others but NO RESPONSE! What's up guys, you all on holiday already or just don't know?
 
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Old Jul 8, 2019 | 08:40 AM
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Still awaiting replies guys, please, srs code 00d0 and 00d1 can't shift them. the other 4 faults for the air bags are gone but these are sticking although the seat belt buckle IS working and switching off the warning light, if it cost more than !00€ it will scrap the POS.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2019 | 08:22 PM
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I don't know about other people but I have a difficult time under standing some of what you are trying to explain. This may be why you have not received any replies.
At this point if the only codes you have are for the seat belt buckles then put the ones from the original seats onto the new seats. The SRS system may be setting the codes because the buckles on the new seats don't have the wires/wiring that the old seat buckles had.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2019 | 02:21 AM
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I did change them and they are the proximity type. All wiring was checked and clipped in place correctly.
SRS 00D0.& 00D1.
The seat belt warning light goes off when belt is inserted.

I am going to try the shipping mode power down today and see if that does it.

Thank you for the reply.
 

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found this photo, it shows the capacitors in the air bag connector, that are in addition to the 2.2 Ohm resistor and why one gets the "capacitance too high" fault with them missing. the 0.47uf is in series and the smaller 0.01uf is in parallel , I think, at least that is what I understand. The combination clears the resistance and capacitance faults but not the seat belt faults. (00D0 & 00D1)

Does the ''D' mean it is a DIM fault?

Did the 'module reset' this morning and it worked, at least the central locking works now but the seat belt codes persist.
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Originally Posted by ssicarman
I don't know about other people but I have a difficult time under standing some of what you are trying to explain. This may be why you have not received any replies.
At this point if the only codes you have are for the seat belt buckles then put the ones from the original seats onto the new seats. The SRS system may be setting the codes because the buckles on the new seats don't have the wires/wiring that the old seat buckles had.
Language difficulty? I thought it was quite clear.
 
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