M47 with B21F? '77 242

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Old Feb 3, 2017 | 08:49 PM
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Default M47 with B21F? '77 242

I just picked up a '77 242 with the B21F and BW35 3-speed. I want to swap the transmission with an M47 out of a running/driving, beater '88 240 with a b230f. Is the bell housing a direct bolt on without adaptors?

Are there any other major issues? Crank position sensor, drive shaft, cross member location?
 
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Old Feb 3, 2017 | 09:10 PM
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automatics and manuals have different drive shafts. afaik, they all have compatible bolt on bell housings. neither your B212F nor an 88 B230 has a crank position sensor. pretty sure the 88 3-pedal assembly will bolt up to the 77. I dunno if 88's have a hydraulic or a cable clutch (never owned a 240 manual).
 
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Old Feb 3, 2017 | 09:13 PM
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oh, the final drive ratios are probably different.

I dunno if a 77 has a electronic or cable actuated speedometer but I'm pretty sure the instrument panels are totally different so not swappable. I believe the cable/mechanical speedos come off the gearbox output shaft, and the 88's M47 probably doesn't have that fitting.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2017 | 09:22 PM
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ok thanks.
yeah, the m47 is electric speedo and the 77 242 bw35 is cable driven. i can deal with no speedo and use gps speedo if i need to, but definitely want the manual m47 on my 242. are there issues other than that you know of? i have the all the parts; drive shaft, flywheel, salve cylinder, etc with the m47.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2017 | 10:56 PM
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A bit crazy perhaps, but if you have someone who's a bit of an electronics nerd, you could probably do something with a small electric motor connected to the speedo cable, and the electric speedo pickup and tone ring from a later car. a bit of electronics (I'd probably use a 'PIC' processor) to track the pulse rate from the electric speedo pickup, and spin the motor at the right speed. a few test runs to calibrate it, done.
 
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