Tailshaft seal leak?
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Transmission update, 5-7.
Ok, while under my 740 today, I noticed that there is a leak at the tailshaft seal, where the yoke goes in. Upon inspection, I found that the actual yoke seems "loose" and can easily move up and down as well as slightly in and out. Is this a loose yoke nut, or something worse? I know the seal needs replaced, but what about the looseness of the yoke? Is this some type of bushing or something, or is it just loose?
Hopefully someone can help me on this, I'd like to tackle it while I'm under there doing the bushings.
Oh, and this is the AW72L transmission.
Hopefully someone can help me on this, I'd like to tackle it while I'm under there doing the bushings.
Oh, and this is the AW72L transmission.
Last edited by BGoins12; 05-07-2011 at 07:51 PM.
#2
Ok, while under my 740 today, I noticed that there is a leak at the tailshaft seal, where the yoke goes in. Upon inspection, I found that the actual yoke seems "loose" and can easily move up and down as well as slightly in and out. Is this a loose yoke nut, or something worse? I know the seal needs replaced, but what about the looseness of the yoke? Is this some type of bushing or something, or is it just loose?
To replace the bushing, you have to remove the driveshaft, output yoke, tailshaft housing (support trans and remove crossmember and trans mount first), mop up the trans fluid that just spilled everywhere, move to the bench, drive out the old bushing (with the proper tool or a perfectly sized socket), drive in the new one (with... see above), install new yoke seal, new housing to trans gasket, housing, bolts, mount, crossmember, yoke, driveshaft, fluid.
There's also writeups with pictures in various Volvo FAQs.
Here's one now..... ---> Transmission. Automatic AW70 and ZF
#6
Update on this. Got my parts yesterday and started today. Turns out that the tailshaft bolt was COMPLETELY loosened from the splined shaft and the bolt fell out when I dropped the driveshaft. I DID find that the bushing was worn, but not too serious, but I am replacing it anyways.
One question though....how far do I press the bushing into the housing? I know that I have to put the hole in the bushing towards the top, but I am unsure of how far to press the bushing in. I am assuming just past the lip where the tailshaft seal sits? Or should I align it with the edge on the inside of the housing?
Oh, and the fluid is a little on the dark side, but doesn't smell burnt... just old.
One question though....how far do I press the bushing into the housing? I know that I have to put the hole in the bushing towards the top, but I am unsure of how far to press the bushing in. I am assuming just past the lip where the tailshaft seal sits? Or should I align it with the edge on the inside of the housing?
Oh, and the fluid is a little on the dark side, but doesn't smell burnt... just old.
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One question though....how far do I press the bushing into the housing? I know that I have to put the hole in the bushing towards the top, but I am unsure of how far to press the bushing in. I am assuming just past the lip where the tailshaft seal sits? Or should I align it with the edge on the inside of the housing?
#8
That's how far I pressed it in. It was replaced before, but was worn down because of the tailshaft's bolt coming loose. Don't worry... it won't come loose this time. I used blue threadlocker and tightened it down SUPER tight. It's all back together... all I have left today is to do the fluid and filter. Anyone recommend flushing the fluid, or should I just do a pan drop?
Oh... and I got 2 transmission filter gaskets in my set from FCP. Use both or did I just happen to get 2 of them?
Oh... and I got 2 transmission filter gaskets in my set from FCP. Use both or did I just happen to get 2 of them?
#9
That's how far I pressed it in. It was replaced before, but was worn down because of the tailshaft's bolt coming loose. Don't worry... it won't come loose this time. I used blue threadlocker and tightened it down SUPER tight. It's all back together... all I have left today is to do the fluid and filter. Anyone recommend flushing the fluid, or should I just do a pan drop?
Oh... and I got 2 transmission filter gaskets in my set from FCP. Use both or did I just happen to get 2 of them?
Oh... and I got 2 transmission filter gaskets in my set from FCP. Use both or did I just happen to get 2 of them?
FCP is the way to go, glad they know the car better than autozone/pepboys.
#10
Update.... all done. New tailshaft bushing and seal, mount, shifter bushings, new filter and fluid. Fluid flushed till it ran nice and pink.
However... it still acts the same. Lurches forward in park when revved, no reverse... neutral acts as a forward gear and D, 2 and 1 are forward gears.
So what do you guys think? Transmission shot? With the amount of crap in the bottom of the pan, I am assuming so. Bottom of pan had a thin layer of sediment on the bottom, all fine stuff. I know it's normal to have a SMALL amount, but probably not what I had.
Saying that... anyone recommend a certain rebuild kit? I am not taking it to a shop, nor am I giving up on the car. I know I can rebuild the transmission... I rebuilt a Buick 2-Speed with a kit and a overhaul manual.
However... it still acts the same. Lurches forward in park when revved, no reverse... neutral acts as a forward gear and D, 2 and 1 are forward gears.
So what do you guys think? Transmission shot? With the amount of crap in the bottom of the pan, I am assuming so. Bottom of pan had a thin layer of sediment on the bottom, all fine stuff. I know it's normal to have a SMALL amount, but probably not what I had.
Saying that... anyone recommend a certain rebuild kit? I am not taking it to a shop, nor am I giving up on the car. I know I can rebuild the transmission... I rebuilt a Buick 2-Speed with a kit and a overhaul manual.
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Yeah, I'm certain something is wrong internally. Took it out this morning with the following results.
Revved slightly in Park, it lurches forward and either stalls or "goes in park", but acts like it's in drive.
Still no reverse.
Driving in drive, it won't shift when driving normally unless you let off the throttle... then it shifts into gear. Upon kickdown, it winds out to redline and shifts properly (the only time it does!).
Not only that, but when I got home, there was a distinct burning clutch/brake and onion? like smell permeating from the car. Fluid still looks nice and pink and smells fine.
If the place you mentioned rebuilds transmissions cheap, I may be willing to ship it there. I'm assuming it's in CA, OR or WA?
Revved slightly in Park, it lurches forward and either stalls or "goes in park", but acts like it's in drive.
Still no reverse.
Driving in drive, it won't shift when driving normally unless you let off the throttle... then it shifts into gear. Upon kickdown, it winds out to redline and shifts properly (the only time it does!).
Not only that, but when I got home, there was a distinct burning clutch/brake and onion? like smell permeating from the car. Fluid still looks nice and pink and smells fine.
If the place you mentioned rebuilds transmissions cheap, I may be willing to ship it there. I'm assuming it's in CA, OR or WA?
#13
Well...
It's shot. Rechecked the linkage adjustments. All are good. Fluid is at the proper level. Drove it again with the same results as listed above. Kickdown cable is properly adjusted as well.
I would pull the valve body, but with the amount of crap in the bottom of the pan... I am assuming that it's simply shot and needs rebuilding. Anyone have a overhaul manual for the transmission that I can buy/borrow?
It's shot. Rechecked the linkage adjustments. All are good. Fluid is at the proper level. Drove it again with the same results as listed above. Kickdown cable is properly adjusted as well.
I would pull the valve body, but with the amount of crap in the bottom of the pan... I am assuming that it's simply shot and needs rebuilding. Anyone have a overhaul manual for the transmission that I can buy/borrow?
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