Volvo 850 Made from 1993 to 1997, this Volvo line was available in both a wagon and a sedan, both with were graced with several trim levels.

850 sportswagon?

  #1  
Old 01-17-2010, 08:52 AM
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 5
Default 850 sportswagon?

hi, newbie here, i'm looking at buying a 1996 850 wagon. the owner didn't specify a specific model or trim, nor did he say it was a turbo, but it has a logo on the back that says sportswagon. does this mean the vehicle is turbocharged? i am interested in it because of the amount of space combined with good fuel economy, so i would rather not have a turbo. i test drove the car and it didn't feel very peppy. it has 266000 miles and is due for a timing belt change, but it's in great shape with many maintenance records. owner is asking $1800, i'm hoping to talk it down a little. any thoughts? thanks in advance for any volvo wisdom.
 
  #2  
Old 01-17-2010, 07:14 PM
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 684
Default

Okay, there's no such thing as an 850 "sportswagon." It's probably an aftermarket badge. As for turbocharged models, the turbo models really don't get worse mileage than the non- turbo ones, unless you can't keep your foot out of it- that's the whole point of turbocharging a smaller engine: get more power out of it when you need it, but keep the economy of the smaller engine when you're just cruising around. It's possible that it is a turbo model with a bad turbo- that would explain the sluggishness, as the NAs shouldn't feel too underpowered to anyone who's not used to anything with good performance. How to tell if it's turbocharged: open the hood and look at the engine. Is there a black metal pipe running from the front, over the valve cover to the back? Then it's a turbo. No? it's not a turbo. If it IS a turbo, and feels sluggish, especially when you "floor" it at 35 or so MPH, then the turbo is probably shot, which means you'll be in for a hefty repair bill, and crap mileage until you DO fix it, as turbo engines have reduced compression in order to compensate for the stress of the turbo.
 
  #3  
Old 01-17-2010, 07:24 PM
rspi's Avatar
Administrator
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 15,762
Default

I don't think I would purchase an 850 that wasn't turbo. I use to think that turbo = more maintenance but that is not really true. Since I started driving a turbo in spring 2009, I look at them as having an extra safety feature.

I would offer $1,300 for the car unless the paint and interior are in GOOD condition.
 
  #4  
Old 01-17-2010, 07:58 PM
Bobec's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Sebastian, FLA
Posts: 459
Default

Originally Posted by rspi View Post
I don't think I would purchase an 850 that wasn't turbo. I use to think that turbo = more maintenance but that is not really true. Since I started driving a turbo in spring 2009, I look at them as having an extra safety feature.

I would offer $1,300 for the car unless the paint and interior are in GOOD condition.
+1, me too. Buy a turbo it's a better engine because it's engineered to support higher pressures. Just look at my herd and my latest addition...A turbo.
 
  #5  
Old 01-18-2010, 11:23 AM
Junior Member
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 9
Default

Originally Posted by Carrots View Post
Okay, there's no such thing as an 850 "sportswagon." It's probably an aftermarket badge.
Jason,

The term "Sportswagon" was used in Volvo advertising for the 1994-1996 model year wagons. If the car is badged Sportswagon, I'm pretty sure it came that way from the factory. I'm sure there are some senior members on the forum who can verify that.
 
  #6  
Old 01-18-2010, 11:41 AM
Somthngfrce's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Orlando, Florida
Posts: 2,168
Default

The Moniker "Sportswagon" came to be a Volvo "Advertisement" much like Nissan advertised "4DSC" or 4 Door Sports Car to make you imagine that the car was something more "fun" than a boring sedan.... Ironically, most of the EU vehicles came with that badging.. I would take the VIN and do a search and see what comes up. You might have a european vehicle in your midst. I too will only buy a Turbo Volvo as they are a better "canvas" to modify...
 
  #7  
Old 01-18-2010, 07:59 PM
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Vermont
Posts: 449
Default

Originally Posted by Penguin View Post
Jason,

The term "Sportswagon" was used in Volvo advertising for the 1994-1996 model year wagons. If the car is badged Sportswagon, I'm pretty sure it came that way from the factory. I'm sure there are some senior members on the forum who can verify that.
+1. I have the badge on one of my 850s. It is not a turbo, nor is there anything sportier than a basic 850 wagon. Offer 1000 w/o timing belt done or 1300 with it done. Be patient because that's too much money for that many miles.
 
  #8  
Old 01-18-2010, 08:35 PM
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 5
Default

thanks for all the advice. i do feel like that's too many miles... i like it because it's a 5 speed and i don't like automatic transmissions. i don't see very many volvo wagons for sale with 5 speed transmissions. but i think i'll keep looking around.
 
  #9  
Old 01-20-2010, 09:51 AM
JimKW's Avatar
Super Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 3,575
Default

In the USA you will not find a 850 turbo with a five speed unless somebody converted it or brought it in from another country. They did not import the Turbo with a five speed to the USA. I would much rather have a turbo automatic than a five speed non-turbo. Best alternative is to go 98 V70 T5 which did come with a five speed in the USA, commonly referred to as the T5M. My son has a 98 S70 T5M. Nice car.
 
  #10  
Old 01-20-2010, 04:54 PM
Junior Member
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 9
Default

You have a decision to make: What's more important; acceleration or transmission?

The 98-00 V70 T5M is a very desirable Volvo to have... and a very limited production one, too. Expect to spend a lot just to get one.

94-97 850 non-turbo, manual transmission models can be found for reasonable prices and in very good to excellent condition. Be willing to look outside your area for a good one. If you find one, drive it to make sure you aren't going to be dissapointed with the lack of acceleration.

As I recall, the automatic transmission in the 96-97 850 Turbo models performed very smoothly. And there is that acceleration difference!!!

Before making any decision about the one you found; take it to a good mechanic and get the car checked out. Take the owner's records with you for the mechanic to reference. If it proves to be in good shape, I'd consider buying it. For that price you could afford to gamble a little.
 
  #11  
Old 01-22-2010, 04:16 PM
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 5
Default

thanks again for the info. acceleration is really not a concern to me. what i'm looking for in a car, and in a volvo 850, is 1) lots of space mixed with decent fuel economy and 2) dependability. added bonuses are super comfortable seats and european design. if i want acceleration, i wait until summer and ride my motorbike. most cars can't really compare to that.
 
  #12  
Old 01-22-2010, 06:15 PM
Bobec's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Sebastian, FLA
Posts: 459
Default

benny802 266K is a whole lot of miles. I do absolutely agree that volvos are "very" reliable cars, it's a major reason we own 4 of them. As an example.. I bought my 96 NA wagon with 136K on it for $3300(not a perfect car but clean interior and well taken care of, cloth seats, basic NA wagon) about 5 years ago. I drove it to 215K. I changed the timing belt and water pump only(myself ...no idlers, tensioners etc. say $150, did have to weld the exhaust and had free access to a lift and MIG welder). If you do the math it turns out to $0.0437 per mile + normal service). exceptional if you ask me.

If I were you I'd look for a lower mile car and pay a bit more for it. NA's are great if you don't like driving at 75MPH and want real power to pass. Turbo's can be nearly as good on gas if you don't put the pedal to the floor all the time.

So unless you want to do real serious rehab, I'd keep looking. They are out there it's just a matter of looking.
 
  #13  
Old 04-27-2019, 10:13 PM
Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 1
Default ....does Volvo know it doesn't exist?

Originally Posted by Carrots View Post
Okay, there's no such thing as an 850 "sportswagon." It's probably an aftermarket badge. As for turbocharged models, the turbo models really don't get worse mileage than the non- turbo ones, unless you can't keep your foot out of it- that's the whole point of turbocharging a smaller engine: get more power out of eed it, but keep the economy of the smaller engine when you're just cruising around. It's possible that it is a turbo model with a bad turbo- that would explain the sluggishness, as the NAs shouldn't feel too underpowered to anyone who's not used to anything with good performance. How to tell if it's turbocharged: open the hood and look at the engine. Is there a black metal pipe running from the front, over the valve cover to the back? Then it's a turbo. No? it's not a turbo. If it IS a turbo, and feels sluggish, especially when you "floor" it at 35 or so MPH, then the turbo is probably shot, which means you'll be in for a hefty repair bill, and crap mileage until you DO fix it, as turbo engines have reduced compression in order to compensate for the stress of the turbo.
I purchased an 850 Sportswagon in 1995. New. From Volvo. I still own it? Yes, it is a Turbo, 5 spd. It is not an after market anything.
Why do know-it-alls rarely know anything? 850 SPORTSWAGONS do exist (perhaps not in the USA, but then there is an entire Planet outside of the USA.
 
  #14  
Old 04-29-2019, 07:27 AM
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Kingsport, TN
Posts: 1,513
Default

I guess you would get tired of folks in the USA not understanding what is going on.
 
  #15  
Old 05-06-2019, 01:03 PM
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 457
Default

Originally Posted by kaydub View Post
I purchased an 850 Sportswagon in 1995. New. From Volvo. I still own it? Yes, it is a Turbo, 5 spd. It is not an after market anything.
Why do know-it-alls rarely know anything? 850 SPORTSWAGONS do exist (perhaps not in the USA, but then there is an entire Planet outside of the USA.
This thread is from 2010.

And

Carrots

Senior Member

Send Message User Lists Last Activity: 06-15-2013 04:09 PM
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
tmaximusv
For Sale / Trade
0
07-08-2013 12:20 PM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: 850 sportswagon?


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

© 2019 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.