My wife said Lynn sounds like a mother describing her ugly child. LOL

There is a few things you can do to it to make it special still. Starting with a nice front spoiler, fogs, HID's, lower it a few inches, then move to a catback, open air intake, and a boost controller. It probably has the stock turbo, just boost it up until you burn it up then drop in a 18t. Just my 2 cents. PM me your address and I'll mail them to you.

 

LMAO.... that made my day!

 

I'm sure the paint is very nice, but I don't care for it.
I'm sure the interior is mint, but it's stock.
I'm sure the engine bay is clean, but it looks very stock.

If I was Boyd/Foose, I'd be embarrassed to have my name on it because it's so far from what they usually do and what could have been done. I've seen better rides from the "regular folks" on this forum. B/F rides should take an amazing effort to "one-up." It would take very little to one-up this one.

Overall I give it a thumbs-down.

 

OK guys - I guess you all woke up. Cut me some slack, there was a lot more hootin' going on here than was deserved.

Here are my observations on the Foose car.

Paint - Different, my wife does not like it either. Fine for a race car.

Interior - Mint, stock. Volvo is the best, good enough for me. Foose often was over the top on interiors.

Engine - IPD 275 hp ECU upgrade, Borla 2.75" SS catback exhaust.

Suspension - Lowered 1", Bilstein shocks, IPD strut brace, cross drilled rotors, cad plated hubs and calipers.

Wheels/tires - New 16" Z rated tires on R car wheels, extra set of 17" Boyds wheels.

I bought this car to run in the BBORR. It was further along than the car that I was building. It is not a drag car. It only has to go 150 mph for 59 miles. To do that it will need a few more upgrades.

Front spoiler - very important.

Samco hoses - keep that pressure in.

Unexpected - $$$

Finally, one of you hit the nail on the head. This was probably the cheapest Coddington/Foose car on the planet. I am proud to be the owner.

Lynn

P.S. There were about 73 Corvettes in the BBORR last year. I'll bet I can toast a few of them.

 

@Lynn: you sound like a reasonable fellow. We'll cheer for you...

 

Good come back Lynn, most people get pissed and start slinging.

Good luck with the BBORR. Be sure to video

Still want to see some pictures

 

Hey Lynn, thanks for coming back. Again, I'm glad someone that cares got it.

Get some of those heavy duty iPd sway bars.

Just wondering, does the ECU upgrade remove the top speed cut off? I was told that the T5's were governed at about 156 mph, if the ECU is replaced, does that govern go away?

Last but not least... Does anyone know where the tack is at 150+ mph? The thing is about 4,500 rpms at 120 mph, right?

 

I may have found the answer to my question about the tach. Here is a few youtube video's.

It's at the red line at 161 mph: YouTube - (nearly) top speed run volvo 850 T-5R

This one was at 124 mph @ red line, probably manual in 4th (sounded like he was running out of road - lol): YouTube - 850 T-5R 0-200 Km/h (125mph) 17 seconds

This one was 136 mph @ red line: YouTube - Volvo 850 T-5R 100-260 (long term rpm limiter problem solved) 1.8 bar peak.

 

For all that want to know, there is a link to the BBORR site: Big Bend Open Road Race (BBORR) - Home page

This is like a motor heads dream. I would not feel comfortable running it that race, maybe qualify just to be able to run the road for fun. You can't beat that, 110 miles for pedal to the metal running, WOW!

From the looks of the rules on their website, there are several classes that one can enter. It doesn't look like you have to be able to maintain the 150 mph unless you are trying to enter the GS division. That looks like to much fun. Have not seen the entry fee yet. I may set a goal to run that race in the next few years.

I wonder what insurance is like?

 

Well, I think I have had my fix with the BBORR website today. Wow! I think I'm going to go do that next year. I must say that I'm very disappointed that I seen NO VS people on there. We had absolutely no representation of any Volvo's over the past 3 years. How can that be??? All of these folks on all of the websites and no one has the guts to enter the race?

I still have not seen the entry fee. When I tried to dl the form it said the file was corrupt on this computer so I couldn't see it. I may or may not sleep tonight but I have only dreamed of the opportunity to drive as fast as I wanted/could for more than 5 miles. This has made the top of my bucket list. Yes!!!

 

Hi guys,

Well I was getting ready to paint over the yellow on the Foose Wagon with a black roller, but now the tone has changed. Thank all you gentlemen.

I did not think there was a speed limiter on the T5 cars. Car & Driver tested their car (1994) at a drag limited 147 mph. My stock 1994 ran 140 mph with maybe 500 rpm left. Very good aerodynamics!

My neighbor runs the 150 mph class at BBORR in an Audi R8. With more than 400 hp it ought to be a breeze. We'll show him good aerodynamics!

Unfortunately, I cannot race next month due to previous commitments. I will be ready and present in 2012 and expect the car to be fully sorted out by then.

Will advise you all on the upgrades.

Lynn

 

Ahem,,, aerodynamics?

Thought you were set on this year?

Make sure you get the wool nap for smooth surfaces...

 

Cd on our cars is actually pretty low, regardless of the boxy shape. It's .32, which is the same as an early 90s NSX, late 80s 300ZX, mkIV toyota supra, and the 2008 Ferrari California.

It's BETTER than an STI, Lambo murceliago, mid 90s camaro, and ferrari 360 modena.

 

Very true, 850 were revolutionary on that aspect. But I think that is for the sedan. Wagons IIRC are .34, and roof rails add another .01 if you want to split hairs.

In about 10 years Volvo brought the CD from mid to high fours to low threes. Pretty amazing.

 

Does that change with speed? I was thinking that drag was at 55 mph. The faster you go the more like a brick these cars become.

 

drag (aerodynamic drag) changes....it increases at the square of speed. coefficient of drag does not.

if you want a detailed scientific explanation, go here:

Drag Coefficient

 

My other 850 was not ready for this year and I bought the Foose car on pretty short notice. My plan all along was to race next year.

I am not that sharp on drag coefficient. My best guess is that lowering the car and an efficient front spoiler will lower CD. And just guessing, since Volvo put a rear spoiler on the V70R cars, I would bet that this would help also.

I do know from aviation that at higher speeds drag reduction is more efficient than adding horsepower.

Vamos a ver!

Lynn

 

lowering the car will not change Cd a single bit. You still present the same frontal surface to the air, and you still have all the same curves. the only thing you gain (besides handling) is that the ground effect (air moving faster under the car) will help somewhat in reducing lift.

A lot of manufacturers of supercars actually build IN drag to keep downforce on cars. for example, F1 cars have VERY high Cd, but they have the horsepower to overcome it. The wings on those cars generate enough downforce that they could, theoretically, drive inverted on the roof of a tunnel.

 

Spoliers help with increasing the downforce on maneuvers, i.e. make the car handle better on turns. If not done correctly, they can actually hurt more than help.

Another way to fight uplift, i.e. help downforces is to run an under-plate on these cars, especially on the rear sections, where there are large cavities around the spare tire donut and rear bumper. In this case, air is not trapped, but it rather flows towards the back, under the car.

 

Downforce on rear wheels is the LAST thing you want on a fwd car though.

Henry: the part under the car you are speaking of is called a diffuser. It DOES keep air from being "trapped" under the car, but the more important function of a diffuser is to channel the air under the car so it's faster moving than the air on top. that makes the air work the opposite of an airfoil (wing on fixed wing aircraft) and pulls the car down to the ground.