Volvo 850 Made from 1993 to 1997, this Volvo line was available in both a wagon and a sedan, both with were graced with several trim levels.

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Old Feb 4, 2011 | 09:24 AM
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Now before anybody gets upset, our 850 still runs but burns about a quart of oil a week and has dents in every possible panel already.

The familiy 850 has seen better days...so we were going to scrap it but it runs so i was going to enter it in the local Junk car race. I have done these before so i know the rules, and one of the rules is NO TURBO CARS.

So i have a call into the rule committe to see if i can just disconnect the turbo, or if they would require it to be removed. If i dont need to remove it, can i just disconncet the charge line, make sure the wastegate stays open, and replumb the intake manifold to the air filter?

If i need to remove the turbo, i guess ill need a non turbo manifold, but what do i do with the oil and coolant lines. Can i just plug them, or do they need to make a loop to cool/lubricate the rest of the motor?

Also with the turbo disconnected will it be in super limp barely crawing mode? My dads saab had the wastegate actuator arm fall off, and it ran fine with no lights, just no boost, can i expect that?

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Old Feb 4, 2011 | 09:31 AM
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Oil lines should be connected to each other / looped. This is a high pressure line (max at 45 psi). Make sure you use transmission cooler hose. Regular heater hose will bust in seconds.

If you disconnect the turbo, I think the car will move, but I am not sure which way.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2011 | 01:36 PM
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Why aren't turbocharged cars allowed in junk car races?
 
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by neonracer193
Now before anybody gets upset, our 850 still runs but burns about a quart of oil a week and has dents in every possible panel already.

The familiy 850 has seen better days...so we were going to scrap it but it runs so i was going to enter it in the local Junk car race. I have done these before so i know the rules, and one of the rules is NO TURBO CARS.

So i have a call into the rule committe to see if i can just disconnect the turbo, or if they would require it to be removed. If i dont need to remove it, can i just disconncet the charge line, make sure the wastegate stays open, and replumb the intake manifold to the air filter?

If i need to remove the turbo, i guess ill need a non turbo manifold, but what do i do with the oil and coolant lines. Can i just plug them, or do they need to make a loop to cool/lubricate the rest of the motor?

Also with the turbo disconnected will it be in super limp barely crawing mode? My dads saab had the wastegate actuator arm fall off, and it ran fine with no lights, just no boost, can i expect that?

Thanks,
Kendrick
perfect useage for this car ,just what its made for
 
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 06:28 PM
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hookus, do you ever have anything POSITIVE to contribute?
 
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Old Feb 8, 2011 | 08:25 AM
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Im not completely sure why they do not allow turbos, maybe it is out of fear of modern technology. The rules are based around big blocks three ton beasts so if your driving a foreign car you might as well be a terrorist. Going to the race is an eye opening experience for an out-of-towner and is a good stage to view the slice of America that buy engagement rings at Wal-Mart and drinks P.B.Rs. So for me, a college educated twenty something who grew up in a semi-redneck environment, i love it.

I have to talk to the rule committee but i think the no-turbo rule is two-fold. They dont want a chunk of iron that glows red anywhere on a car that will be slamming into other cars that will more easily start a fire than a hot manifold. And the other assumption is that they made a blanket rule thinking all turbocharged cars make too much power, which doesnt make any sense because the 220 HP volvo is still goin to be in the rink with 350 HP old American beasts. But that being said the organization puts on a very safe and well run event, and of the 5 times i have been there i never saw anybody get hurt.

So i will just disconnect the wastegate rod just to see how the car performs without the turbo to see if it even worth spending all this time on. I do believe that it would excel though in the race, it will be sturdy enough to last but nimble enough to avoid the tanks
 
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Old Feb 8, 2011 | 08:58 AM
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If the turbo is in place its going to spin and will heat up so they may not let you in regardless of what changes you do.

Sounds really fun though!
 
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Old Feb 8, 2011 | 08:21 PM
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hookus, do you ever have anything POSITIVE to contribute?
do i have to sugar coat everything to satisfy you? you mean i'm only allowed to agree with YOU ? are you bullying me ? Deleted rambling...
 

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Old Feb 8, 2011 | 09:12 PM
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Nobody is bullying you dude. I'm just stating thast you NEVER sday anything positive here. In fact, I wonder why you even still come here. You have made your opinion on volvos pretty well known

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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 02:03 PM
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just take off the turbo and run it straight out the manifold.. or weld on a pipe and attach it to the exhaust.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by matt01
just take off the turbo and run it straight out the manifold.. or weld on a pipe and attach it to the exhaust.
I like this idea, it wouldnt be too dificult to fab a downpipe or just run it open since there is no care for the car, it would be fun and loud.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 09:35 PM
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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 09:40 PM
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by hookuspookus
kiddo ? i will continue to give MY opinion on what ever i feel like giving it on, now that i see it bothers you i will be on even more ,kiddo .
could you get lost?
 
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 12:39 PM
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Vmax
ibified vs. hookuspookus: Round 2, FIGHT!
They need their own thread.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by matt01
could you get lost?
you are in violation of volvo forum bullying policy . get lost ? think not kiddo ! i will be on everyday . kiddo ! senior member only means you pay ! thank you for letting me know that i'm truly needed here ,pal . GFY ! get it ?
 
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 07:21 PM
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A senior member means you have more than 100 post. Not a paying member.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by hookuspookus
you are in violation of volvo forum bullying policy . get lost ? think not kiddo ! i will be on everyday . kiddo ! senior member only means you pay ! thank you for letting me know that i'm truly needed here ,pal . GFY ! get it ?
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A senior member means you have more than 100 post. Not a paying member.
could we get a ban or something, im getting inbox's now..
 
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