New Guy with 850 No-Start
Hi, All - I need some Volvo Guru Advice.
I bought an 850 off a friend of mine who was moving away. It won't start, but I told him I'd get it running and maybe somebody can get some use out of it.
Here's my situation:
1994 850 Turbo
1. On-board diagnostic thing does not work. When I plug the little wire in, I get a dim LED. If I push the button, the LED is bright when I am pushing it, but that's it. It never flashes.
2. By the OBDII plug, I do get a response from the computer, but no data. I guess that is normal. It says I have a problem with the TPS circuit. I am only getting 1 volt at the TPS (should be 5).
Do you guys suppose the ECU is shot? If that is true, I need to swap out with somebody to find out. I am in Kingsport, TN
3. I have no spark. I need to hook up a tach here and see if I am actually getting a cycle from the ECU at the coil or not. I gathered from the manual that the TPS problem wouldn't cause a no-spark.
Thanks for any help. I would think somebody has seen this onboard diagnostic thing failure before.
I bought an 850 off a friend of mine who was moving away. It won't start, but I told him I'd get it running and maybe somebody can get some use out of it.
Here's my situation:
1994 850 Turbo
1. On-board diagnostic thing does not work. When I plug the little wire in, I get a dim LED. If I push the button, the LED is bright when I am pushing it, but that's it. It never flashes.
2. By the OBDII plug, I do get a response from the computer, but no data. I guess that is normal. It says I have a problem with the TPS circuit. I am only getting 1 volt at the TPS (should be 5).
Do you guys suppose the ECU is shot? If that is true, I need to swap out with somebody to find out. I am in Kingsport, TN
3. I have no spark. I need to hook up a tach here and see if I am actually getting a cycle from the ECU at the coil or not. I gathered from the manual that the TPS problem wouldn't cause a no-spark.
Thanks for any help. I would think somebody has seen this onboard diagnostic thing failure before.
Could be; the battery did run down. It never blinks at all. when I let go of the button, it does nothing. Does that seem right?
Last edited by firebirdparts; Jun 22, 2012 at 03:26 PM.
So here's a little update - I hooked up an aftermarket tach to the coil, and I don't seem to have a tach signal at the coil itself during cranking. That confirms what the Volvo tach is showing.
I would guess that there is a cam sensor feeding the ECM, and the ECM is feeding the coil. Is that corrct? Anybody have a technique for testing the cam sensor?
I would guess that there is a cam sensor feeding the ECM, and the ECM is feeding the coil. Is that corrct? Anybody have a technique for testing the cam sensor?
Ok, it looks like this thing covers it:
http://www.volvoclub.org.uk/tech/ser...sicTesting.pdf
Their order is check for spark, check for voltage at the coil, check voltage after the coil, then engine speed (crank?) sensor, then the cam sensor.
http://www.volvoclub.org.uk/tech/ser...sicTesting.pdf
Their order is check for spark, check for voltage at the coil, check voltage after the coil, then engine speed (crank?) sensor, then the cam sensor.
As a followup, I seem to have fixed this accidentally. when it recurred, I was able to find the exact cause.
The main fuel injection relay (mounted above the radiator) dropped out due to deterioration of the plug. This is a style of plug that Dave Barton sells parts for. When it unplugged itself, it created a situation where the LED would glow dimly when I hooked up diagnostic port 2, and I had no spark. It would not display trouble codes.
This relay primarily powers the fuel injectors on the always-on side, but it goes several other places as well, and feeds back to the ECM.
The main fuel injection relay (mounted above the radiator) dropped out due to deterioration of the plug. This is a style of plug that Dave Barton sells parts for. When it unplugged itself, it created a situation where the LED would glow dimly when I hooked up diagnostic port 2, and I had no spark. It would not display trouble codes.
This relay primarily powers the fuel injectors on the always-on side, but it goes several other places as well, and feeds back to the ECM.
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