Volvo 850 difficult start, engine dies etc... HELP!
U think this is the issue? If I replace it, it will work fine?
Anyway, this Forum is awesome, looks like I need to work on my 262C as well... I see you had one too!!!
Anyway, this Forum is awesome, looks like I need to work on my 262C as well... I see you had one too!!!
Last edited by rspi; Jun 3, 2012 at 10:07 PM.
Being that the MAF is rather expensive (and I HIGHLY recommend an OEM Bosch unit if replacing), personally I'd clean the MAF, and replace the coolant temp sensor. At ~$40, it's money well spent on something that is almost certainly at least contributing to your issue (gauge should not move once operating temp is met, unless you are overheating, I think about 240F it starts going up past center).
Last edited by Turkey_Sandwich; Jun 3, 2012 at 09:56 PM.
My gauge was making tiny fluctuations like that, when I had a issue that pretty well mirrored yours. My coolant temp sensor was throwing intermittent low readings, and causing it to flood at idle.
Being that the MAF is rather expensive (and I HIGHLY recommend an OEM Bosch unit if replacing), personally I'd clean the MAF, and replace the coolant temp sensor. At ~$40, it's money well spent on something that is almost certainly at least contributing to your issue (gauge should not move once operating temp is met, unless you are overheating, I think about 240F it starts going up past center).
Being that the MAF is rather expensive (and I HIGHLY recommend an OEM Bosch unit if replacing), personally I'd clean the MAF, and replace the coolant temp sensor. At ~$40, it's money well spent on something that is almost certainly at least contributing to your issue (gauge should not move once operating temp is met, unless you are overheating, I think about 240F it starts going up past center).
I have been too lucky with this awesome car that I think I slightly neglected her maintenance and now it's catching up with me. 2012 will be the year I fix what needs to be ;-)
Likely the thermostat is just old and worn. The spring wears over time and doesn't close the valve all the way causing the car not to warm up properly. A lot of people replace the temp sensor when they do the thermostat because you have to have the stat housing off to get to the temp sensor.
Your motor is probably not getting warm as it is. Usually the neddle go to 3 O'clock when the temp gets to 165+. The engine is suppose to run near 190. A cold engine will run rich and waste gas. A thermostat is the best $12 you'll ever spend on a car.
Your motor is probably not getting warm as it is. Usually the neddle go to 3 O'clock when the temp gets to 165+. The engine is suppose to run near 190. A cold engine will run rich and waste gas. A thermostat is the best $12 you'll ever spend on a car.
Likely the thermostat is just old and worn. The spring wears over time and doesn't close the valve all the way causing the car not to warm up properly. A lot of people replace the temp sensor when they do the thermostat because you have to have the stat housing off to get to the temp sensor.
Your motor is probably not getting warm as it is. Usually the neddle go to 3 O'clock when the temp gets to 165+. The engine is suppose to run near 190. A cold engine will run rich and waste gas. A thermostat is the best $12 you'll ever spend on a car.
Your motor is probably not getting warm as it is. Usually the neddle go to 3 O'clock when the temp gets to 165+. The engine is suppose to run near 190. A cold engine will run rich and waste gas. A thermostat is the best $12 you'll ever spend on a car.
btw if I need a MAF I checked on Ebay and the price seems ok... compare to some other sites...
ok then... I hear you. Btw, for the record and from my own experience, I never thought Bosch was that great, ever worked on a 262C ? OMG ;-)
Haha, I can only speak for the stuff of theirs that I have used, and there was a definite quality issue with the aftermarket MAF that I got.
The exposed heated sensor on the aftermarket unit looked like a homebrew solution compared to OEM.
The exposed heated sensor on the aftermarket unit looked like a homebrew solution compared to OEM.
I won't go for the cheap stuff. Regarding Bosch engineering, they just seem to follow the philosophy of : why do simple when you can do complex... Just a thought ;-)
The second best is taking the thermostat housing torx screws to the hardware store and replacing them with hex head bolts, stainless if they have them. Either way use a little anti-seize for next time.
If you ever have those heads strip out on you, you'll understand why it's such a great idea to do it before it happens !!
If you ever have those heads strip out on you, you'll understand why it's such a great idea to do it before it happens !!
Follow up: I realize I never did follow up on that story. I did replace the thermostat which was broken, replaced the temperature sensor.
Regarding the MAF, I installed a new OEM Bosch unit and it fixed the problems. Thanks for all your help on that one.
On a different story, I continue to fix issues, I replaced the front Oxygen Sensor which was bad, now I am getting error codes P0131 & P0137 which relate to low voltage to the sensors.... I checked the connections but no luck.
P0131: O2 Sensor Circuit Low Volts (Bank 1 Sensor 1)
P0137: O2 Sensor Circuit Low Volts (Bank 1 Sensor 2)
Any idea what could cause both errors to come at the same time? The car runs great but I need to pass inspection soon but until this issue is resolved, it won't....
Thanks.
PS: as a reminder, I have a 1997 Volvo 850 NON Turbo 2.4L
Regarding the MAF, I installed a new OEM Bosch unit and it fixed the problems. Thanks for all your help on that one.
On a different story, I continue to fix issues, I replaced the front Oxygen Sensor which was bad, now I am getting error codes P0131 & P0137 which relate to low voltage to the sensors.... I checked the connections but no luck.
P0131: O2 Sensor Circuit Low Volts (Bank 1 Sensor 1)
P0137: O2 Sensor Circuit Low Volts (Bank 1 Sensor 2)
Any idea what could cause both errors to come at the same time? The car runs great but I need to pass inspection soon but until this issue is resolved, it won't....
Thanks.
PS: as a reminder, I have a 1997 Volvo 850 NON Turbo 2.4L
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