Here is an example of reasonable effort to separate the two areas/sections:





The timing shield will make debris physically impossible to get into timing area.

 

This timing shield can be made of cheap sheet metal and screwed onto the original pulley:





The whole thing costs less than $1 and can save you $6000!

 

Take a look at the actual car, not a parts diagram. There is a timing cover and a shield along the bottom. Volvo did not "know of the problem" because other than operator error, there is no problem. And they have covers in place to keep debris out. That would be reasonable. Also, the pulley has a lip on the inside edge already. Good luck.

 

"Volvo did not "know of the problem"" -- yeah, they only know setting up more engine rebuild factories to rebuild more engine blocks can make themselves more money! :-)


That's why they charge $500 for the core: they have to make sure to get it back so they can sell it again and again! (were they used to be pigeon farmers?) :-)


"the pulley has a lip on the inside edge already" -- yeah, the same as on the outer edge... :-)

 

Every manufacturer has a core on engines so they can rebuild them.

The lip is different on the inside than the outside.

If you put your shield on and shred a belt, it will still be very possible for it to wrap around the pulley.

Also, it will likely got the tensioner. So re-engineer that too.

 

"Every manufacturer has a core on engines so they can rebuild them" -- yeah, not as often as Volvo! :-)


If you are talking about this:





Then you are onto something (finally! :-))


But the problem is this part IS NOT on this car! :-)


And it never will if everybody is like you... :-)


The reason I didn't use this design is it may cost $10 extra -- too much to be a reasonable effort from a cheap car maker! :-)

 

I'm not talking about that, but even with that, it is still very possible for a shredded belt to get wrapped up in there. How is a lower splash pan, outer timing cover, inner timing cover and lower timing shield not reasonable effort? Again, it isn't their fault you hit something.

And every manufacturer has a core on engines all the time. There's cores on lots of parts. It doesn't mean anything.

 

I am glad you used "even with that" because that only reinforced the key point here: "Volvo didn't make any reasonable effort"... :-)


All your "lower splash pan, outer timing cover, inner timing cover and lower timing shield" will help reinforce this key point too: thank you! :-)

 

You don't make any sense. You are irrational and try to refute my points with more irrationality. If you don't want to explain how 4 covers is not reasonable effort, then I'm done with this. The fact is there is no reasonable way to totally prevent this by sealing it completely. And no matter what, you won't be satisfied. Next time, make a reasonable effort to not hit something. That seems to work well for plenty of other people.

 

Yeah, guess who said "I've seen this many times" at 08:49 PM on 08-11-2015? :-)

 

I have. The car is low.

But if you take all the P1 cars I've worked on and compare it to the amount of times I've seen this, the people who haven't hit something far outnumber those of you who have.

 

Yeah, so 10,000 vs. 10 million? :-)


10,000 X $6000 = $60,000,000 is still a VERY BIG number, isn't it? :-)

 

The other 9,999,990 people who don't hit things is also a big number.

Again, you are refuting with made up numbers based on absolutely nothing. And still not explaining how 4 covers and a lip on the balancer is not reasonable measure.

 

"The other 9,999,990 people" -- just for your information, people usually call that normal... unless you are used to broken things in life! :-)


"4 covers and a lip on the balancer" -- because they didn't work! :-)

 

So to actually answer the question, your definition of reasonable is crash proof? Got it. Your idea, which you said was reasonable, wouldn't work. So it must not be reasonable, much like yourself.

I can't wait until the next thing breaks on your car so we can all hear how it is a money grab conspiracy.

 

Yeah, metal shield doesn't work, but plastic dust cover does! :-)

You don't need to wait, your logic broke into pieces long time ago! :-)

 

That metal shield will still allow a shredded belt behind it. Also, the metal shield will hit the tensioner.

Logic would tell me that not crashing the car would help.

Logic would tell me that it isn't the manufacturers responsibility if you hit something because you think the car is higher than it is.

Logic would tell me that multiple items being in place to keep debris out is reasonable. Experience tells me those work. Guess how many I've seen with dirt or a rock or stick in there? None. Its always been driver error.

 

Yeah, YOUR logic told you plastic dust cover doesn't work before, and it tells you it works now... :-)

 

Again, not making sense. But okay.

 

Yeah, sense is when Volvo and repair shops make extra money: it's good for the economy! :-)