XC60 One pedal driving - any long term impacts?
I have a 22 xc60 recharge (extended), I am finally getting used to using one pedal driving. (Putting it in B drive instead of D).
Two questions:
1. Does this actually help to charge the battery while driving? Or is it negligible?
2. Are there any long term affects from one pedal driving? Just like using brakes wears out brake pads, etc., Does anything get impacted by letting the car slow itself down?
Two questions:
1. Does this actually help to charge the battery while driving? Or is it negligible?
2. Are there any long term affects from one pedal driving? Just like using brakes wears out brake pads, etc., Does anything get impacted by letting the car slow itself down?
It seems to me that, in the XC60 ER, the car gets noticeably extended all-electric range when using one-pedal driving extensively in slow urban driving where there's a lot of stop-and-go (vs. not using it). It's mainly useful in that kind of driving; I turn it off for driving at higher speeds...
Extensive use of one-pedal driving should also help to extend the brake pads/rotors.
Extensive use of one-pedal driving should also help to extend the brake pads/rotors.
I also have a 2022 XC60 Recharge Extended (already in shop within one month of purchase 😖 - subject of a new thread), but was wondering if the brake light comes on when you are using one pedal driving. I know I could have my wife follow me to find out, but thought I would ask the forum first. At slow speeds, the one pedal braking slows you down so quickly to an almost complete stop that I’m hoping the brake light does come on or somebody would not know you are stopping.
Saved me doing the same thing.
I have followed a few cars going downhill lately and wondered ' why are they braking ' and now I probably know the real answer and its not just a nervous driver.
Regeneration I notice also happens in D mode but whether its as effective I doubt it but you never know.
I have followed a few cars going downhill lately and wondered ' why are they braking ' and now I probably know the real answer and its not just a nervous driver.
Regeneration I notice also happens in D mode but whether its as effective I doubt it but you never know.
Now that I know the brake lights do come on, I ran some errands today in ‘B’ and thought the same thing. People must think I’m riding my brakes. Oh well, the one pedal regenerative braking is probably worth it. Anyway since I’m an old guy, they might not expect any better 😎
I just started using the B mode, one pedal driving last week. The first couple of days were pretty uncomfortable as I needed time to retrain my brain - but now I am enjoying it! In a normal mode you would start pressing the brake pedal softly as you approach a stop (coasting to the stop). Using one pedal driving, you do the same, but rather than coasting to a stop while pressing the brakes, you coast to the stop will softly releasing the pressure from the "gas" pedal, and then a little tap of the actual brake pedal when coming to the full stop - vs a rolling stop that we are not allowed to do : )
Good to know that the brake lights come on ... I had not even thought of that!
Good to know that the brake lights come on ... I had not even thought of that!
Regarding tail lights, perspectives from my 2022 XC60 T8 ER, from driving at night on dark streets where I can see reflective posts, signs, etc., in rear-view mirror light up (or not) due to my brake lights: in "B" mode, if you take your foot off the accelerator slowly/gradually, the brake lights do not come on (as should be the case)... The brake lights come on only if you take your foot off the pedal more suddenly or rapidly. Also, if you come to a complete stop in "B" mode and then creep forward a little with the accelerator pedal, the brake lights go off, and when you come to a (slow) full stop in "B" mode again (as you always should, especially if "Creep" is turned off, as I have it), the brake light does NOT come on again. Of course, in "D" mode, if you take your foot off the accelerator even quickly/abruptly, no brake lights come on (again as should be the case, because you aren't slowing down that quickly in "D" mode).
I think that "B" mode is brilliant, in the way that Volvo has designed it on my vehicle, and I use it most of the time now in local, low-speed driving where there's a lot of stop-and-go or a lot of slowing down and speeding up again. I've even "forgotten" to put it from "B" to "D" when going onto an expressway at highway speeds, but the car knows at 60 or 70 mph not to slow down quickly in "B" mode, so it's not dangerous to use at high speeds, either.
I think that "B" mode is brilliant, in the way that Volvo has designed it on my vehicle, and I use it most of the time now in local, low-speed driving where there's a lot of stop-and-go or a lot of slowing down and speeding up again. I've even "forgotten" to put it from "B" to "D" when going onto an expressway at highway speeds, but the car knows at 60 or 70 mph not to slow down quickly in "B" mode, so it's not dangerous to use at high speeds, either.
Last edited by cometguy; Jul 4, 2022 at 07:16 AM.
My understanding is the one pedal drive was not available on the first XC 60 recharges, only on the newer ones with extended range.
I also have a 2022 XC60 Recharge Extended (already in shop within one month of purchase 😖 - subject of a new thread), but was wondering if the brake light comes on when you are using one pedal driving. I know I could have my wife follow me to find out, but thought I would ask the forum first. At slow speeds, the one pedal braking slows you down so quickly to an almost complete stop that I’m hoping the brake light does come on or somebody would not know you are stopping.
I did have my wife get out of the car and check for brake lights using the one pedal driving and yes the brake light does come on.
I think that "B" mode is brilliant, in the way that Volvo has designed it on my vehicle, and I use it most of the time now in local, low-speed driving where there's a lot of stop-and-go or a lot of slowing down and speeding up again. I've even "forgotten" to put it from "B" to "D" when going onto an expressway at highway speeds, but the car knows at 60 or 70 mph not to slow down quickly in "B" mode, so it's not dangerous to use at high speeds, either.
When I first got the car, I tried "B" mode, didn't like it, and thought I would never use it. I started to use it (for a slightly different reason...will explain below), and now I'm pretty hooked on it.
The reason I started...I noticed that the initial acceleration from full stopped is higher on "D" mode than in "B" mode. Since this is a new car, I have one of those monitoring sensors from my insurance company to get a discount, it monitors hard acceleration and deceleration (anything more than 7 mph per second). So, I found its easier to have a gradual acceleration in "B" mode.
But, it is indeed less of an oomf when stepping on the gas in "B" mode. Waiting until the insurance sensor period is over to go back to normal (fun) driving...haha.
The reason I started...I noticed that the initial acceleration from full stopped is higher on "D" mode than in "B" mode. Since this is a new car, I have one of those monitoring sensors from my insurance company to get a discount, it monitors hard acceleration and deceleration (anything more than 7 mph per second). So, I found its easier to have a gradual acceleration in "B" mode.
But, it is indeed less of an oomf when stepping on the gas in "B" mode. Waiting until the insurance sensor period is over to go back to normal (fun) driving...haha.
I’ve been using B drive almost exclusively. I like it’s “downshifting” feel and not always using my brakes. In the city it does tend to slow you down more quickly than you would using the brake so you do need to be watchful of that. I haven’t seen it do much as far as recharging the battery around town. But at highway speeds, I like that it does recharge the battery. I read somewhere you could recharge up to around 80% using B drive. On road trips that’s what I’ve found. We have the extended range and can get it back up to around 30 miles. Nice feature.
Two months into my ownership of my 2022 XC60 T8 ER, and I'm using "B" mode exclusively, even on a long, 420-mile roadtrip of mostly expressways (staying in Hybrid/Hold mode for speeds > 45 mph, and in "Pure" mode for speeds < 45 mph). I know that I'm using the brake pads a lot less, it's less stressful driving, and I notice the huge amount of extra regen into the battery pack (vs. not using "B" mode). Now when I accidentally forget to switch from "D" to "B" mode when starting to drive, I notice the difference immediately and switch to "B". When I drive my wife's RAV4 Prime (which doesn't have one-pedal driving but still has good regen), I notice the difference immediately, and I imagine that the RAV4 Prime brake pads will not last as long as those on my XC60 ER. What a great feature to have! And I'm so glad that Volvo was the first automaker to put one-pedal driving into PHEVs.
Once you get used to the B mode driving, you can very precisely control the level of regen and hence the slow down by the amount of pressure you put or let off on the pedal.
A quick way to learn is watch the battery power meter a bit as you drive and get a feel for where the pedal is at different levels of the putting charge back into the battery display.
At the cross over point, you are pretty much in almost free coasting mode and then the regen gets more aggressive as you let up on the pedal.
A quick way to learn is watch the battery power meter a bit as you drive and get a feel for where the pedal is at different levels of the putting charge back into the battery display.
At the cross over point, you are pretty much in almost free coasting mode and then the regen gets more aggressive as you let up on the pedal.
When I first got the car, I tried "B" mode, didn't like it, and thought I would never use it. I started to use it (for a slightly different reason...will explain below), and now I'm pretty hooked on it.
The reason I started...I noticed that the initial acceleration from full stopped is higher on "D" mode than in "B" mode. Since this is a new car, I have one of those monitoring sensors from my insurance company to get a discount, it monitors hard acceleration and deceleration (anything more than 7 mph per second). So, I found its easier to have a gradual acceleration in "B" mode.
But, it is indeed less of an oomf when stepping on the gas in "B" mode. Waiting until the insurance sensor period is over to go back to normal (fun) driving...haha.
The reason I started...I noticed that the initial acceleration from full stopped is higher on "D" mode than in "B" mode. Since this is a new car, I have one of those monitoring sensors from my insurance company to get a discount, it monitors hard acceleration and deceleration (anything more than 7 mph per second). So, I found its easier to have a gradual acceleration in "B" mode.
But, it is indeed less of an oomf when stepping on the gas in "B" mode. Waiting until the insurance sensor period is over to go back to normal (fun) driving...haha.
My wife and I bought a '23 XC60 Recharge 6 months ago. She uses the B one pedal drive all the time. I like it in traffic but don't care for the sluggish acceleration when in B. Since it feels like the car is being restricted when accelerating, I can't help but wonder if there is any negative to the B mode, such as lower gas mileage when using the gasoline engine during highway driving or some unknown negative even when in Pure or Hybrid mode. Also, if the brake lights do not come on when gently letting up on the accelerator in B, but the car is slowing at a greater rate than it would in D, does that not increase the risk of someone rear ending us?
Just a note, to verify your brake lights coming on, it's easy. While driving at night without someone behind you, use your finger to turn on the 'camera' function in the 'overhead' view and take your foot off the gas while at speed. You'll notice in the display that your brake lights have lit up.
I'm retired and live within 7 miles of most places I go to on a daily basis. With the new extended range batteries in my '24 model, I can go significantly further on batteries when in 'B' mode rather than 'D' mode.
There is another characteristic you may notice over time and miles. If your normal drive has a lot of curvy roads, you may notice slightly more wear on the outside edges of your front tires. It's primarily due to the fact that 'B' mode means you're using your car as a very heavy rear wheel drive car. It's weight is a tick over 5 thousand lbs. and pushing it rather than pulling it through the turns will cause more front wheel tire edge wear. Your dealer on inspection may want to do an early rotation and suggest an alignment. Just be aware of that, and the decision to do that is between you and your wallet.
I really love my XC60 T8!
Last edited by Cruiter; Jun 2, 2024 at 10:04 AM.
My wife and I bought a '23 XC60 Recharge 6 months ago. She uses the B one pedal drive all the time. I like it in traffic but don't care for the sluggish acceleration when in B. Since it feels -)like the car is being restricted when accelerating, I can't help but wonder if there is any negative to the B mode, such as lower gas mileage when using the gasoline engine during highway driving or some unknown negative even when in Pure or Hybrid mode. Also, if the brake lights do not come on when gently letting up on the accelerator in B, but the car is slowing at a greater rate than it would in D, does that not increase the risk of someone rear ending us?
. When I drive out of town with Interstate travel I usually switch to Hybrid drive and even enter my destination into the Navigation system. The reason is that it will figure the total route including speed limits, traffic on the route, and even traffic lights to give you the best mileage.
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