Volvo S40 The S40 is Volvo's most affordable sedan with all the amenities of a luxury sports car.

2005 S40 won’t start

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 11-04-2020, 05:33 PM
TheVillageIdiot13's Avatar
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Grain Valley, Missouri
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default 2005 S40 won’t start

2005 S40 2.4i with manual transmission.

I just changed the head gasket, timing belt, water pump, spark plugs, oil, and coolant.

It cranks fine, I get fuel at the fuel rail but doesn’t seem to be firing... and questioning if it’s even injecting fuel because I would expect to get a gas smell after cranking over for a bit.

I have an OBD ScanTool hooked to a laptop. And have no trouble codes. I’m curious though if a scan tool should read cam or crank sensors.

I have a whining/humming sound that seems to be coming from the throttle body when key is in. If I unplug the plug to it, it stops making noise. Plug it back in and no noise until turning key off and back on.

dumb question but to verify spark, I assume I need to pull the upper intake off, pull coils and plugs and ground the plug, and crank?

I assume if I have a crank or cam position sensor I won’t get fuel injected or get spark.

i have not verified compression after putting back together and will do that to confirm but I’m questioning cam and/or crank sensor due to lack of fuel smell.

Thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

Randy
 
  #2  
Old 11-04-2020, 06:37 PM
habbyguy's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 1,372
Received 108 Likes on 104 Posts
Default

I'd start with the easy checks.

Spray some starter fluid into the intake (take out the air filter). If it fires right up for a few seconds, look for a fuel problem.

Your method should verify spark (you'll need a helper - and might want to do it when it's not direct sunlight, as even a strong spark can be hard to see).

But given that you did all that timing belt / head gasket work, I'd want to take a HARD look at the timing marks, to make sure they are all lined up perfectly (never did a Volvo TB so can't help much there).

And finally, I'm assuming you didn't swap the timing belt because the old one broke or slipped (in which case, you just spent a lot of time and money on a soon-to-be junkyard motor). ;-)
 
  #3  
Old 11-04-2020, 06:58 PM
TheVillageIdiot13's Avatar
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Grain Valley, Missouri
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

See... I knew I asked for a reason. Not sure why I didn’t think about starter fluid. I sure would’ve though lt of it in the horrid days!

No broken belt, it overheated and warped the head. Lost compression on 3 & 4. I can sure go back and double check timing belt alignment but man, I was so paranoid putting it together I am sure I got it right.

Am I right in my thinking about crank and/or cam sensor? If one or other was not good, could lose fuel and/or fire?

Thanks for the reply.

Randy
 
  #4  
Old 11-04-2020, 10:15 PM
habbyguy's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 1,372
Received 108 Likes on 104 Posts
Default

I know that a bad crank sensor can cause you to lose spark, or cause some really bad idle / power problems. A gross electrical problem with the sensor would probably show up on the OBD reader. Don't think it would interrupt the fuel though.

I remember reading about difficulties with getting the Volvo timing marks right without a special tool, but to be honest, I never dug into that one (never had to, happily). I always just assumed "timing marks is timing marks"... but there might be more to it.
 
  #5  
Old 11-05-2020, 05:46 AM
TheVillageIdiot13's Avatar
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Grain Valley, Missouri
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by habbyguy
I know that a bad crank sensor can cause you to lose spark, or cause some really bad idle / power problems. A gross electrical problem with the sensor would probably show up on the OBD reader. Don't think it would interrupt the fuel though.

I remember reading about difficulties with getting the Volvo timing marks right without a special tool, but to be honest, I never dug into that one (never had to, happily). I always just assumed "timing marks is timing marks"... but there might be more to it.
I purchased and used the cam alignment tool... and again was very paranoid about screwing things up and breaking valves, that I double, triple, QUADRUPLE checked the marks.

I'll hopefully find time to try starting fluid tonight and see what happens.

Thanks for the reply!

Any other thoughts?

Have a GREAT day!

Randy
 
  #6  
Old 01-12-2022, 05:45 AM
Wadeallen's Avatar
Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2022
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Same problem

I have a 2005 S40 I have a continuous buzzing sound with the key offer on as soon as I hook up the battery coming from the throttle control module it seems like it's buzzing right where the throttle control module plugs in and plugs out not really sure what it is but it comes from right there anybody got any ideas key on or off as soon as I hook up the battery it buzzes .
 
  #7  
Old 01-12-2022, 10:47 AM
mt6127's Avatar
Super Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Burlington, VT
Posts: 9,212
Received 485 Likes on 466 Posts
Default

what you can do is start pulling fuses and/or relays to see what turns off the buzzing, then use a wiring diagram etc to see what's on that circuit. Plan B is to feel around to see if you can feel what's vibrating.
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Scot1
New Members Area
0
05-11-2019 05:46 PM
cable5
Volvo S40
2
01-13-2015 09:39 PM
tobolate
Volvo 850
15
05-25-2013 01:44 AM
nepatternmaker
Volvo 240, 740 & 940
17
11-11-2010 10:43 PM
castiron
Volvo 850
12
02-19-2006 06:53 PM



Quick Reply: 2005 S40 won’t start



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:36 PM.