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Old 04-20-2022, 03:33 PM
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I changed the stalk, cleaned the cem and fuse connectors with cleaner, I got a used motor (although I ordered a second one I suspect it may have been dead also) I have power and ground at motor, and volts on the white green signal wire, the motor pops on randomly And never shuts off even with key removed. I suspect a bad motor, I read many threads but no one really seems to post the results. Everything else works, if anyone has any experience or things I missed, I ordered the Volvo software so I can dive deeper into this. And will post my findings
 

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the motor pops on randomly And never shuts off even with key removed. I suspect a bad motor,

I ordered the Volvo software so I can dive deeper into this. And will post my findings

It's not your motor.

The CEM controls the wipers. A good first step would be to scan all the control units in the car. You may find CEM codes - commonly CEM's are subject to water damage which causes many weird symptoms. Someone like xemodex.com can fix your CEM if it is water damaged.

"Ordered the Volvo software" - are you referring to a copy of Vida 2014d and a dice unit? If so that would be the best tool to scan the car with.
 
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It's not your motor.

The CEM controls the wipers. A good first step would be to scan all the control units in the car. You may find CEM codes - commonly CEM's are subject to water damage which causes many weird symptoms. Someone like xemodex.com can fix your CEM if it is water damaged.

"Ordered the Volvo software" - are you referring to a copy of Vida 2014d and a dice unit? If so that would be the best tool to scan the car with.
yes vida and dice - can I change the cem with

a used one with this software its the full version

Or is it easier to send it out? I watched videos on the vida software I guess it will show if it can talk to the motor or not

at $549 I will just drive the car on sunny days, any way to install a wiper motor I can put a manual switch in?? That would be way easier
 

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yes vida and dice - can I change the cem with

a used one with this software its the full version
Your stolen and hacked VIDA 2014d can read codes and help you diagnose and repair things, gives you a parts catalog and wiring diagram if complete. You can't download software updates or initialize new modules unless you have a paid subscription purchased from volvotechinfo.com.

Used CEM - A cem is "coded" to the VIN number of your car. VIDA can't "program" a used CEM to work with your car. An aftermarket source such as xemodex can.
 
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Your stolen and hacked VIDA 2014d can read codes and help you diagnose and repair things, gives you a parts catalog and wiring diagram if complete. You can't download software updates or initialize new modules unless you have a paid subscription purchased from volvotechinfo.com.

Used CEM - A cem is "coded" to the VIN number of your car. VIDA can't "program" a used CEM to work with your car. An aftermarket source such as xemodex can.
oh I should probably return it then, I took apart the CEM took all the fuses out and looked at the board there was some corrosion pretty bad enough to send signals probably the wrong way I cleaned it up really good with electronic cleaner letting it dry now, see if this fixes it
 
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Also when you hit the auto wiper feature the symbol doesn’t show in the dash display- could that be a wiring issue to the control module? Or a bad switch - but there are electronics behind the switch
 
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Well if the wipers work with the key removed ,then its a definitily a short somewhere , the central Electronic module , if it corroded is probably like 95% the fault
Pity you got a new motor as that cant be the fault , they either work or not
Alway test a Motor before getting a new one , just apply 12v to it
 
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Well if the wipers work with the key removed ,then its a definitily a short somewhere , the central Electronic module , if it corroded is probably like 95% the fault
Pity you got a new motor as that cant be the fault , they either work or not
Alway test a Motor before getting a new one , just apply 12v to it
the motor always has 12v the signal wire turns the electronics inside the motor on and off
 
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