Finally found a great shop.!!
#1
Finally found a great shop.!!
If you live in southern Cali particularly SFV marks independent Volvo in Chatsworth is the place to be!! I know forums are about fixing it yourself but not everybody has time or is technical to do it yourself. With that said don't waste your time at the dealer or with anyone else just call and talk to mark for 1 minute and u will now u made the right choice. I came from galpin Volvo and just had them rape my warranty for 2200 for a radiator, control arms and bushings. While at the dealer I found mark and and wanted to take my car to him for a repair that was not covered ad they wanted $1900 for it. Long story short I'm getting that repair done as well as spark plugs engine mount struts hood release brake fluid flush air filter for the same damn price.!! As well mark explains it soo thoroughly to you that you have zero doubts.!! Don't waste the time and money anywhere else.!! I made that mistake once and will never again,!!
#2
Maybe you want to save your high praise for after you have had a few jobs done there? I hope it works out for you, and I also use independent Volvo shops whenever possible if I can't do it myself, but low pricing alone does not make a shop great. Quality work done right the first time at a fair price does, but sounds like your car hasn't even been in yet.
#3
#5
I think part of having a good relationship with your indy is in understanding a bit about your car and the diagnostic procedures whether you do the work yourself or not. Also I don't understand the slamming of dealers - I agree there's a mark up on parts and labor that is quality based (you get factory trained techs, manufacturer specific tools, parts warranties etc) which not everyone values, but the work done under warranty is sponsored by the factory where there are other considerations (like known problem areas/bulletins etc) and approvals before a local dealer can start work. I had a recent experience on my 2012 VW CC where the alternator went at 49,000 miles (under a CPO warranty). Got the car back and 3 miles from the dealer my oil light flicks on and off, so I go back to the shop thinking they nicked the sensor wire when doing the Alternator. After replacing the sensor, they did a test drive and recreated the error so back in the bay where they put a pressure monitor on the port and ran the car through a test procedure to see where the pressure dropped below spec under certain conditions. Next step was to pull the oil pan, where they found metal filings in the oil pick up. So VWOA approved a new long block - $9500. Am I complaining? Of course not. The service tech could have cleaned out the pick up and marked as fixed and I'd probably be looking at a blown engine a year or two down the road - on my nickel. Point here is the dealer techs have the training/tools and support structure for anything that may come up and that gets bundled into their higher shop charge. If you have a mundane issue (say normal wear items like brake pads) then you don't get the benefit of the extras so finding a local shop is the right way to go. To my first point, I personally triage my issues into DIY, local shop and dealer repairs. Its helpful to read up on possible causes and related issues so you don't feel taken advantage of when the shop finds more faults or recommends repairs you weren't expecting. So today's issue is my daughter's S40 threw a CEL. Got a P0300 and a P0303 (generic misfire and #3 cylinder misfire). So I'm off to get new plugs, wires and coils to baseline the tune and be set for another 50K miles. A shop could have thrown in new plugs and declared me as all set or they could recommend $200 worth of parts. Who's right?
#6
I think part of having a good relationship with your indy is in understanding a bit about your car and the diagnostic procedures whether you do the work yourself or not. Also I don't understand the slamming of dealers - I agree there's a mark up on parts and labor that is quality based (you get factory trained techs, manufacturer specific tools, parts warranties etc) which not everyone values, but the work done under warranty is sponsored by the factory where there are other considerations (like known problem areas/bulletins etc) and approvals before a local dealer can start work. I had a recent experience on my 2012 VW CC where the alternator went at 49,000 miles (under a CPO warranty). Got the car back and 3 miles from the dealer my oil light flicks on and off, so I go back to the shop thinking they nicked the sensor wire when doing the Alternator. After replacing the sensor, they did a test drive and recreated the error so back in the bay where they put a pressure monitor on the port and ran the car through a test procedure to see where the pressure dropped below spec under certain conditions. Next step was to pull the oil pan, where they found metal filings in the oil pick up. So VWOA approved a new long block - $9500. Am I complaining? Of course not. The service tech could have cleaned out the pick up and marked as fixed and I'd probably be looking at a blown engine a year or two down the road - on my nickel. Point here is the dealer techs have the training/tools and support structure for anything that may come up and that gets bundled into their higher shop charge. If you have a mundane issue (say normal wear items like brake pads) then you don't get the benefit of the extras so finding a local shop is the right way to go. To my first point, I personally triage my issues into DIY, local shop and dealer repairs. Its helpful to read up on possible causes and related issues so you don't feel taken advantage of when the shop finds more faults or recommends repairs you weren't expecting. So today's issue is my daughter's S40 threw a CEL. Got a P0300 and a P0303 (generic misfire and #3 cylinder misfire). So I'm off to get new plugs, wires and coils to baseline the tune and be set for another 50K miles. A shop could have thrown in new plugs and declared me as all set or they could recommend $200 worth of parts. Who's right?
#7
Dude, we are all pretty much on the same page here, except your concept of the dealer raping your warranty. Dealers have an overhead cost that far exceeds any indy shop and that reflects in the cost of ALL of there services, not just the ones indy shops can't handle. After 30 years in the industry I feel comfortable making that statement. That said, I only go to the dealer for those exact repairs. I recently had a failed security transponder in my key and didn't have a spare. I shopped it around and the dealer was the cheapest.
My only point in my first post was you were praising this indy having yet to have your first repair. Again, 30+ years and I have had many encounters with people who can talk the talk. Not all of them could walk the walk. I was simply suggesting you proceed cautiously until you had a few repairs done.
My only point in my first post was you were praising this indy having yet to have your first repair. Again, 30+ years and I have had many encounters with people who can talk the talk. Not all of them could walk the walk. I was simply suggesting you proceed cautiously until you had a few repairs done.
#8
I never have a problem showing a customer what's wrong with their car or explaining why I'm recommending something be replaced. I wish more customers would ask the advisor to bring them back because 99% of the time they buy the work when I show it to them.
And you think we like working on warranty cars? Quite the opposite.
And you think we like working on warranty cars? Quite the opposite.
#9
Dude, we are all pretty much on the same page here, except your concept of the dealer raping your warranty. Dealers have an overhead cost that far exceeds any indy shop and that reflects in the cost of ALL of there services, not just the ones indy shops can't handle. After 30 years in the industry I feel comfortable making that statement. That said, I only go to the dealer for those exact repairs. I recently had a failed security transponder in my key and didn't have a spare. I shopped it around and the dealer was the cheapest.
My only point in my first post was you were praising this indy having yet to have your first repair. Again, 30+ years and I have had many encounters with people who can talk the talk. Not all of them could walk the walk. I was simply suggesting you proceed cautiously until you had a few repairs done.
My only point in my first post was you were praising this indy having yet to have your first repair. Again, 30+ years and I have had many encounters with people who can talk the talk. Not all of them could walk the walk. I was simply suggesting you proceed cautiously until you had a few repairs done.
#10
I never have a problem showing a customer what's wrong with their car or explaining why I'm recommending something be replaced. I wish more customers would ask the advisor to bring them back because 99% of the time they buy the work when I show it to them.
And you think we like working on warranty cars? Quite the opposite.
And you think we like working on warranty cars? Quite the opposite.
#11
I never have a problem showing a customer what's wrong with their car or explaining why I'm recommending something be replaced. I wish more customers would ask the advisor to bring them back because 99% of the time they buy the work when I show it to them.
And you think we like working on warranty cars? Quite the opposite.
And you think we like working on warranty cars? Quite the opposite.
#12
I wasn't being funny.
With regard to warranty, I was referring to cars under factory warranty. You said people look at you like "What are you doing here?" if your car is more than two years old. Any tech would prefer that to a car under factory warranty. We get paid less for warranty repairs.
As for extended warranty, it depends on the company. Some pay full book time. Some pay warranty times. Some want to send their own parts. Some won't put a new transmission in and make the customer take the car elsewhere (like in your case).
As for your recent dealer experience, if you complained about the vibration and they didn't address that, then they should have. Or, what might have happened is the extended warranty company declined the repair for the transmission, so they gave you the car back because the warranty company won't pay. Or because it makes more sense for the shop that is doing the trans work to replace the axles, since there would be no additional labor. If the warranty company isn't going to pay, then I would ship the car too. I don't know about you, but I don't work for free.
With regard to warranty, I was referring to cars under factory warranty. You said people look at you like "What are you doing here?" if your car is more than two years old. Any tech would prefer that to a car under factory warranty. We get paid less for warranty repairs.
As for extended warranty, it depends on the company. Some pay full book time. Some pay warranty times. Some want to send their own parts. Some won't put a new transmission in and make the customer take the car elsewhere (like in your case).
As for your recent dealer experience, if you complained about the vibration and they didn't address that, then they should have. Or, what might have happened is the extended warranty company declined the repair for the transmission, so they gave you the car back because the warranty company won't pay. Or because it makes more sense for the shop that is doing the trans work to replace the axles, since there would be no additional labor. If the warranty company isn't going to pay, then I would ship the car too. I don't know about you, but I don't work for free.
#13
I wasn't being funny.
With regard to warranty, I was referring to cars under factory warranty. You said people look at you like "What are you doing here?" if your car is more than two years old. Any tech would prefer that to a car under factory warranty. We get paid less for warranty repairs.
As for extended warranty, it depends on the company. Some pay full book time. Some pay warranty times. Some want to send their own parts. Some won't put a new transmission in and make the customer take the car elsewhere (like in your case).
As for your recent dealer experience, if you complained about the vibration and they didn't address that, then they should have. Or, what might have happened is the extended warranty company declined the repair for the transmission, so they gave you the car back because the warranty company won't pay. Or because it makes more sense for the shop that is doing the trans work to replace the axles, since there would be no additional labor. If the warranty company isn't going to pay, then I would ship the car too. I don't know about you, but I don't work for free.
With regard to warranty, I was referring to cars under factory warranty. You said people look at you like "What are you doing here?" if your car is more than two years old. Any tech would prefer that to a car under factory warranty. We get paid less for warranty repairs.
As for extended warranty, it depends on the company. Some pay full book time. Some pay warranty times. Some want to send their own parts. Some won't put a new transmission in and make the customer take the car elsewhere (like in your case).
As for your recent dealer experience, if you complained about the vibration and they didn't address that, then they should have. Or, what might have happened is the extended warranty company declined the repair for the transmission, so they gave you the car back because the warranty company won't pay. Or because it makes more sense for the shop that is doing the trans work to replace the axles, since there would be no additional labor. If the warranty company isn't going to pay, then I would ship the car too. I don't know about you, but I don't work for free.
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