Hi, I'm new to Volvo and new to the forums and I'm hoping some of my basic Volvo questions can be answered.

I'm currently looking at buying a used Volvo but I'm in the initial stages (haven't even driven one yet). Anyways, one thing I was wondering is, on the S60s from 2000-2008 or so era, do they have rear fog lights on them? That's a feature I'm pretty interested in.

Also, on S60Rs were auto transmissions available? Thanks.

 

Yes, they do. And you can rig them so that both sides are illuminated and really **** off the people behind you at night!

 

And also risk the chance of getting rear ended cause it's harder to discern when the brake lights engage. There is a reason that only one side is illuminated.

The rear fog light is standard on all S60's and IIRC, All Volvo's.

As far as the S60R's, they came in both manual and auto transmissions. '04-'05 autos are a 5 speed auto with tq limiting in 1st and 2nd gears. '06-'07 autos are a 6 speed auto with out tq limiting in any gear.

 

Thanks guys, most people don't even understand what a rear fog light is, but IMO they are very important safety features and should be standard on ALL cars.

I'd be the type to rig both sides though, lol! Is there a link that outlines the process just so I can read up on it?

And I think as long as you don't abuse the rear fog light, people won't get confused with brake lights.

I live just outside Buffalo NY and do a lot of highway driving in the winter. The only time I'd ever activate the rear fogs is during a snow storm. Also, heavy rain happens in the summer too so it's good for all seasons!

 

Having them both on is abusing it. There located in the tail light housing and their so bright, they over power the brake lights when they turn on. Not to mention it looks like you're riding you brakes. The only indicator that you're slowing down is the third brake light. That in the already pore visibility during the heavy rains and snow of NY, isn't a all that great. Yeah, you might be seen, but people wont be able to tell you're slowing down as well. Keep in mind that it's also illegeal in the USA to have dual rear fog lights located in the tail light housing. Chances are if you get rear ended with them on, most likely it'll be your fault and you'll be held liable. Look at the last generation of Audi's S6's. They have duel rear fog lights but they are located on the trunk panel to each side of the license plate. That's how they should be if you want to go with duel light.
Now that I've said my piece, It's really easy to set up the second light. I don't remember all the details. Just do a search on how to and you'll figure it out.
I also agree, it is a very nice safety feature when used appropriately.

 

I agree with you in part. Most people don't even know what a rear fog light is so even if they saw one they probably wouldn't know what it means.

However, you are also assuming people only use them at night. Rear fogs are probably the most useful during the day when you get white outs/heavy rain fall (or yes, FOG). Regular tail lights just aren't bright enough in day light to mark your car effectively. That's why the are so good during the day! It's kind of like DRLs, despite it being the day time, you still need something bright to really get attention.

I should also mention I live on the Canadian side of Buffalo so no New York State laws thank god! So long as they aren't any brighter than brake lamps, I don't see any legal issues.

As for the wiring, I imagine you just jumper a wire from the OEM fog light over to the other side of the trunk, but would I have to get another harness or bulb socket?

BTW, which bulbs are the actual fog lights?



Are they the inner most ones? Which ones are the brake lights anyways?

Thanks.

 

All they are is a brighter light to let drivers behind you know you're there. One light or two, they will make you more visible in bad conditions.

I use my rear light whenever the conditions are appropriate, night or day. Being in the rainy NW, it's fairly regularly. Lol.
You're right, regular tail lights are not bright enough. My only argument is that it's harder to see the brake lights engaged if you have brighter lights right next to the brake lights. It won't get attention because the brake lights going on are already over shadowed by the brightness of the fog lights.

Must be nice. Lol.
The rear fog is just as bright as the brake light when the brakes are applied. So if there is one on each side, it looks like you'd be riding the brakes, and when your brake lights engage, it is not as noticeable.

IIRC the wiring is already there for the right hand drive cars around the world. I just can't remember if it's as easy as installing a bulb, or if have to tap into the fog light wire from the other side.

Fog's are the inner most one. and the brake lights are the tail lights, just brighter. I'll snap a few pictures tonight whenever it I can get off work. But Here's an old shot of my car with the fog light on. You can see how much brighter it is then the tail lights. (I was using it cause some of us got separated and wanted my them to be able to tell my car from how far they were back. )

 

What is the outer most red light?

I know most people probably could care less about this stuff, but I guess I'm a little different.

Thanks for the info.

 

My mistake, the outside light is the brake light. It's been way too long since I've driven it, and I usually don't drive behind my own cars. Lol.