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1998 S70 GLT Starts then dies, drive with MAF unplugged

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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 10:04 PM
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Unhappy 1998 S70 GLT Starts then dies, drive with MAF unplugged

Grrr, this is my daughter's car about 1,600 miles away. It all started on 3/12 with P0243 & P0171 codes. Searched around a there were no clear answers but about 75% of the threads lead to a bad MAF. So I shipped her a MAF and after the MAF change, the car did NOT want to start. Start, run for a second, then die. So she pulled the MAF and the car starts and runs rough.

Thinking that used MAF may have been bad, I sent her one that I test on my turbo 850. Same thing, the car will not run with the MAF plugged in but will run rough with it unplugged.

So I had her reset the system by pulling the battery connectors and holding them together for several seconds. Then I had her unplug her ECU and plug it back in a few times while the battery was disconnected. Connected everything back up and has the same issue.

After driving the car a little, the only code now is the P0102 MAF code because she is driving with it disconnected.

Any suggestions before she takes it to a shop?
 
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 10:25 PM
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When it all started did it just set codes or did it run and die, run rough too ??
 
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 10:28 PM
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The P0102 is low circuit input or low air flow. Have you had her do a really good visual and tactile search of the tubing all the way up to the manifold, IAC too ??
 
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Old Mar 20, 2014 | 05:52 AM
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I think it just set the code.

I told her to check for air leaks but I'm not sure she did a good job looking. I'll shoot her a little video in a few minutes.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2014 | 07:23 AM
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The P0102 code if from starting it with the connector unplugged. The issue is with it not staying running when it starts with the MAF plugged in.
 

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Old Mar 20, 2014 | 08:16 AM
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I told her to plug the MAF back in, clear the code, start the car and keep it running until it pops a code.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 04:29 AM
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Well, she could not find anything loose or leaking. Not sure if she had help.

She hooked up the MAF, got it running and kept it running for about 5 minutes by keeping the motor rev'd up but it would NOT throw a code so she gave up.

She has an appointment to have it checked out Tuesday am. Any other suggestions are welcome till then.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 12:32 PM
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First thing that came to mind was a idle control valve or the coolant temp sensor. Leaning on the coolant temp sensor.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 06:36 PM
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The IAC is humming and she claims the hoses are connected good.

I'll have her scan it for temp reading.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 11:10 PM
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boxpin, why would the coolant temp sensor be a potential answer? I am having some issues and think the coolant temp sensor may be a problem
 
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Old Mar 22, 2014 | 02:40 PM
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I saw an S40 start drive fine then all of a sudden as it got warmed up just would not idle any more. It would stumble and die. Crank and crank and crank to get it started then you had to hold the throttle open to get it to stay running. Swapped the sensor, fixed.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2014 | 06:56 PM
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I wonder if it had a code? Last time this one had a bad temp sensor it tossed a code and made the fan run a lot.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2014 | 01:47 PM
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I dont recall a code, its been a couple years, sorry.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 01:20 PM
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Fixed. Shop said it had an air leak that was quickly messing up the MAF. Not sure how that works unless it was sucking oil back into the air box.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 06:18 PM
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What was happening there was it was sucking in air and the MAF didn't know about it. While its sucking in air from somewhere else the MAF gets even less and the computer tries to adjust for it. When you disconnected the MAF there was no reading to adjust so that was why the car seemed to run better. Would have been great if she would have been able to spray some carb cleaner to find the leak. I know the cars fixed now but figured I would explain what was happening.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 09:19 AM
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Yea, I tried to tell her and hard headed boy friend. That's what you get when you let a Bengal work on your car. :/

This is what the mechanic wrote: "Vacuum & boost pressure leaks. Secured intercooler & reattach lower hose." The radiator was hanging down. I told them to look down there at the hose, even sent them a video.
 

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