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not an oil leak, but an oil waterfall!!

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i purchased my 1st volvo (00 s80 t6) about 3 weeks ago. the car was from an impound auction, and was sitting for 90 days prior to the auction. i have been working on it in my driveway until today when i finally decided things should be good to go for the road .......overall i love the car, drives nice, and has decent power (slightly disappointed with a twin turbo 6cyl, but it is not a sport car)

after a 5 mile drive i could smell oil. open the hood, and the former spotless engine had oil droplets all over, also looked like oil "shot" out of the dipstick with oil on the hood just above the dipstick ( fist size mist of oil)

-look under the car (shield/cover already removed) and oil is EVERYWHERE! it looked like a sheet of oil dropping from the cross-member (under the axel?.) and dripping oil off the fan shroud on the passenger side.

i get the car home and sprayed everything with de-greaser and cleaned it up a bit.

there was oil down the fan shroud and dripping to the ground (also on the alternator) looked like it was going down the oil pan also. it seems the dip stick tube is leaking where it goes into the block (but not alot)

-i got the car on ramps and started it up.......well NO leaks, finally after about 5 minutes i see a small amount of oil coming from the rear of the engine above the heat-shields (turbo's looked dry????)


on top of this the brake light and stop vehicle message comes on....lucky after reading it is a common error because the brakes worked fine....odd part is the message comes and goes at random times.

so far it seems like i have a project ahead of me but i only paid $1,800 for the car, and carfax shows it was always local to my area and dealer maintained...
 

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Happened to be watching a video on P2 Volvo's and see what you are talking about. Says it has to do with the PCV system. About 3:00 into the video.

 
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Old 03-24-2014, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by stop_at_willoughby View Post
Happened to be watching a video on P2 Volvo's and see what you are talking about. Says it has to do with the PCV system. About 3:00 into the video.

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sweet deal!!! it would explain the oil spraying out the oil dip stick, ill have to check a diagram for the pcv system and see what/where/how to fix it..thanks!
 
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Originally Posted by joey_espo View Post
sweet deal!!! it would explain the oil spraying out the oil dip stick, ill have to check a diagram for the pcv system and see what/where/how to fix it..thanks!
If you are able to isolate and correct the problem. Please make sure to share with the forum.
 
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Originally Posted by stop_at_willoughby View Post
If you are able to isolate and correct the problem. Please make sure to share with the forum.

absolutely, i actually ended up dropping the car off at a local shop. i let the mechanic know the info from the video. i usually do all work myself, but this one had me thrown for a loop. the more i learn the more ill post.
 
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soooo my mechanic said he cant fix it....said he doesn't have the right tools, so i am back at square one. i watched a video of putting a rubber glove over the oil cap to check for =/- pressure, i did so and it sucked the glove inwards, this is how it is supposed to be otherwise a blocked pcv would build pressure and blow the glove up?? slow speeds the car is great no issues just the leak, however at higher speeds 50+ is when i get the oil out of the oil dip stick tube. this issue is really boggling my mind, i called other shops and they wont touch the car, volvo basically said it would take mutiple trips to the dealer to resolve enerything and my budget of 1,200 would only be a start towards the fix :0
 
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When you did the glove test did you try it at a high revs? At idle its hard to tell.
 
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Does the oil dipstick still have the rubber 'O' ring seal on it.
If missing the crankcase pressure at higher rev's would be enough to push oil out and then become dispersed around engine bay by the incoming cooling air thru the grille or even more so with the fan going.
 
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When you did the glove test did you try it at a high revs? At idle its hard to tell.
i floored it, only got to 4k rpm and almost sucked the entire glove into the valve cover....
 
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Originally Posted by difflock54 View Post
Does the oil dipstick still have the rubber 'O' ring seal on it.
If missing the crankcase pressure at higher rev's would be enough to push oil out and then become dispersed around engine bay by the incoming cooling air thru the grille or even more so with the fan going.
yes it does...i even cut the finger of a glove and put it over the dip stick. the dip stick vacuumed the glove..i took it around the block and go figure nothing this time. it has only came out the dip stick 2 times in about 4 or 5 trips. almost like the pcv is going bad?
 
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new problem maybe? the dealer said they would charge to clean the engine (giving the amount of oil all over. i cleaned it pretty well. and decided to try seafoam. i used 3/4 in the iol and 1/4 in the intake, now the car runs like garbage and wants to stall out, i ran it about 20 minutes with no difference...oddest part usually when i use seafoam i get a lot of smoke out the exhaust, this time absolutely nothing!
 
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Could be excessive blowby from one of the turbos. Get the RPM's high enough so the turbos spool and I bet you see the oil go. That would also explain your dissapointment in power as well. The 01 I have is stout and isn't afraid to break a motor mount if you're not nice to it...lol
 
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decided to tear into it today.....i got the intake mani, power steering pump, alternator, ac, and bracket off to access the oil box....well everything seemed fine no build up in the block openings, and the oil can itself looked in great shape no oil came out when i turned it upside down, and all openings were free flowing....now to put it all back together, at least now i know how to take the front of the engine apart.....
 
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Not sure if this was the video you watched. But this guy who is a casual member on here mentions leaving the dip stick out to look for black smoke. Very informative about the PCV system none the less if this was not the one you watched.

 
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Pull the plugs and do a compression test. If the oil pan is making enough pressure to push out the dipstick tube it's generally combustion pressure getting past the piston rings.
 
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Originally Posted by stop_at_willoughby View Post
Not sure if this was the video you watched. But this guy who is a casual member on here mentions leaving the dip stick out to look for black smoke. Very informative about the PCV system none the less if this was not the one you watched.

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yep i watched this one, i tried the glove trick on oil filler cap, and used a finger of a glove on the dip stick...both have vacuum, and on higher revs, the glove almost got sucked into the valve cover....
 
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Pull the plugs and do a compression test. If the oil pan is making enough pressure to push out the dipstick tube it's generally combustion pressure getting past the piston rings.
ill try this on friday, my brother has the compression test tool
 
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compression: #1-6= 120psi, this was with a cheap set and the pressure is approximate.....

worst now 5 of the intake mani bolts are stripped....
 

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